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Old February 28th, 2004, 03:18 AM
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Bow of War is directly affected by the strength of the unit as well. Go back and check.
Not according to the item description.
You are also wrong Saber Cherry...
I just checked the description for the BOW OF WAR

Damage is : 10
( Strength of wielder not added )

That's directly from the game
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Old February 28th, 2004, 03:31 AM
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Bow of War is directly affected by the strength of the unit as well. Go back and check.
Not according to the item description.
You are also wrong Saber Cherry...
I just checked the description for the BOW OF WAR

Damage is : 10
( Strength of wielder not added )

That's directly from the game

First you say that it *is* affected, then you quote from the game that it *isn't* ... which is precisely what Cherry said. So how is Cherry wrong? Please make up your mind. And please use a little more tact. Cherry doesn't deserve the highly confrontational tone of your post(s).

I'll go back to lurking again ...
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Do you even know what "Strength not added" means?

It means it's not affected by strength. Or more clearly, it means that it's not affected by strength. Which is the opposite of "Directly affected by strength".
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That could be my mistake then... and the description can be read either way.

Damage 10 saying the damage is 10 and the strength of the wielder has not yet been added.

Seems much more logical for them to add:
(strength of wielder added) to the one ThunderBow
instead of adding {strength of wielder not added to all of the bows but one.

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That could be my mistake then...
Methinks you owe Cherry an apology ...
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I was mistaken... not impolite.
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I was mistaken... not impolite.
"You are also wrong Saber Cherry..." was impolite, at least amongst my social circle, and the way I was raised. At the very least it was tactless. But I suppose your understanding of the term "polite" may suffer from the same malady as your understanding of the phrase "Strength not added" ...
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the same malady as your understanding of the phrase "Strength not added" ...
In my strict upbringing you appologize for doing wrong to someone... not being wrong about misreading something. LOL

It seems odd the developers added (strength of the wielder not added) to every bow... when only one bow has the effect where it does matter.
Would have been 10 times easier and more logical for them to add (strength of wielder added) for the one special bow... and leave the others blank.


By the way your quote listed above was not exactly polite.

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Would have been 10 times easier and more logical for them to add (strength of wielder added) for the one special bow... and leave the others blank.
On this we agree.

EDIT: however, to be fair to IW, for all other weapons, strength is added. Bows just happen to be an exception. A better phrasing would be "Strength does not apply to damage".

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Some points here. First, the developers are swedish and that has made a difference in the game. Some of their desriptions get fixed by proofreaders but I still find some wording confusing. I just remind myself that changing it to english is not the same as matching American phrasing.

Also, the game has built in stages. Its not like they created all the bows at once. For a clearer idea of this examine the AllView game and the order that creatures have been added.
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