Amazon Mod

[Boron]

with special i didn't mean an additional blessed unit but one capitol only stronger expensive unit

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Originally posted by PvK:
Perhaps the sacred unit should be a standard-bearer wielding the traditional gilt double-bladed labris axe.

Tu quoque, Brutu!

Very strange, this apparently overwhelming tendency modders have to add standards or standard effects of all sorts to their units and commanders. Many mods available for download from IW share this feature!

That would be thematic,

If you say so it must be so, although the reason why it would be thematic escapes me at the moment.

add variety,

Isn't there enough yet? The only lack of variety I find in your mod is due to the omnipresence of only one gender.

Well, if more variety is needed my first idea would be to add a Mata-Hari-like unit, similar in ability to the Ti'en Ch'i female spy (forgot the name, probably 'Consort').

[PvK]

Well ya they have tons of variety already, with four types of good (if not high-protection) infantry, four types of sacred cavalry/fliers(!), and all magic paths covered, plus the common units I added... they're one of the most diverse nations around.

The Labrys axe is an Amazon icon, from ancient references to its use, and a symbolic link to the historical Amazonian dual queen system - the axe is double-bladed, and served a dual purpose as weapon and farm tool. I worked it into the flag icon, which is why it seemed "thematic" to me to have it as a standard. Maybe not, though.

Trying to avoid adding new stuff to them since they already have so much different stuff, and seeing no better armor in their current inventory, I'm thinking instead that maybe quarterstaff or Snake Staff elites might serve the purpose of these two requests, by giving a high-defense unit, if not a high-prot one. I guess broadswords would do it, too, slightly better (since the shield is retained for anti-missile survival) and without making them Jades (the snakes).

PvK

[SelfishGene]

Disable blood magic and have a 'freed blood slave' unit (or should it be 'liberated'?). Grrl power.

[ July 14, 2004, 18:18: Message edited by: SelfishGene ]

[Taqwus]

I would have liked nations/themes to be able to get their own national blood slave units -- Abysian blood slaves being fire-immune, Jotun blood slaves being larger and cold-immune, Caelian blood slaves being winged and cold-immune, etc. In this case, the blood slaves could be made male.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by SelfishGene:
Disable blood magic and have a 'freed blood slave' unit (or should it be 'liberated'?). Grrl power.

While I'm greatly in favor of the Slave Liberation Movement (SLiM), and girl power in general (we are not only the fairer sex, but the more cunning one), there are already units to be found with plenty of girl power: Amazons and their affiliated gemstone priestesses/sorceresses.

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Taqwus:
In this case, the blood slaves could be made male.

Yeah, that's it, *male* slaves. Males are larger (typically) and thus have more blood. Plus they double as beasts of burden.

[Boron]

male bloodslaves aren't pure and innocent
so a male blood slave only attracts a succubus but no other demons
well perhaps some of the arch devils and so on are gay than it would work too

[ July 14, 2004, 19:31: Message edited by: Boron ]

[Arryn]

Originally posted by Boron:
male bloodslaves aren't pure and innocent

Thoughts don't count in regards to purity and innocence. Trust me on this: at any given age, girl's locker rooms are by far raunchier than boys.

so a male blood slave only attracts a succubus but no other demons

Isn't it the *blood* that's supposed to be the attraction, not what's hiding in the crotch? The rituals involve killing and bleeding the victims, not rape by demon.

[Vynd]

The manual is very specific, repetitive, and possibly even fetishistic on the topic of blood slaves. Only female blood is sufficiently powerful, and only virginal females are sufficiently pure. No doubt the Amazons capture and enslave weak-minded, man-loving (in an innocent sense) women to fulfill their blood slave needs.

I've only seen Jade, Garnett, and Onyx Amazon units. What kind of sacred troops do you get from the super-hard-to-find Crystal Amazons?