Future Combat Systems ---- USA

[pdoktar]

Correct me if I´m wrong but is this thing basicly still a gun-launched ATGM? With satellite / whatever guidance and a Chemical or Kinetic warhead. A hyper-speed ATGM in the Kinetic version? So VIRSS and ARENA etc. protective systems will work against it? Or is it too fast for them?

[kevineduguay1]

Will these pics help?

[whdonnelly]

The MGS has finally arrived. According to press releases it goes from the good to the laughable.
The good:
The MGS will carry four types of ammunition: a depleted-uranium armor-piercing round, a high-explosive anti-tank round, a high-explosive plastic round for blowing through walls and barricades, and a canister round filled with 2,300 tungsten ball bearings for firing on enemy fighters.

The funny(this is an 18 round 105mm we're talking about):
The MGS packs "exactly the same, if not a little more enhanced" firepower as the much heavier 70-ton Abrams tank, but is not as sturdy defensively, Cooper said.

The first quote is good, the second one is hard to explain.
Take care
Will

[pdoktar]

Here we go. This unbelievable spread of mis-information is the disease of our age. Who the hell is this "Cooper"? Packs maybe even more punch than a Abrams.. WHAT? I hate the press. They act like they know everything about everything, just because they´re the ones who spread info or act like a medium of information to the poor Jacks and Jills of modern western society.

In what way 18x105 is more than 44x120.. I don´t care if those guys are going to fight on toyotas or Devastators form the game Dune2. I care when this kind of ridiculous info meets the public, who can´t weigh the facts as they have little experience of such complex weapon systems, and are actually told lies (again).

[whdonnelly]

Here's another good one:
M1A2 SEP Hits a Moving T72 from 8km
In the first beyond line of sight mission test held at the U.S. Army's Yuma, Ariz., Proving Grounds on Sept. 25, 2006, the laser guided MRM-CE projectile fired from an Abrams M1A2 SEP (system enhancement program) tank scored an extended-range, guided direct hit at a moving T-72 tank at a range of 5.4 miles (8.7 km). The test demonstrated the laser-guided seeker's ability to successfully target, acquire and track a moving tank and guide the munition to intercept at the required range.

[pdoktar]

So basicly an gun-fired ATGM did hit a target at 8 kliks. What a surprise..!! Not even a KEM munition, if MRM-CE means Medium Range Missile-Chemical Energy.
Oh.. the tables have really turned now, revolutionazing ground warfare.

[Listy]

whdonnelly said:
Here's another good one:
M1A2 SEP Hits a Moving T72 from 8km
In the first beyond line of sight mission test held at the U.S. Army's Yuma, Ariz., Proving Grounds on Sept. 25, 2006, the laser guided MRM-CE projectile fired from an Abrams M1A2 SEP (system enhancement program) tank scored an extended-range, guided direct hit at a moving T-72 tank at a range of 5.4 miles (8.7 km). The test demonstrated the laser-guided seeker's ability to successfully target, acquire and track a moving tank and guide the munition to intercept at the required range.

Question..
Who came out on top of that engament in the finacial exchange?