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April 26th, 2001, 06:39 PM
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Re: Question for those who were/are in the armed services...
Armored Cavalry has a different TOE as well. 8 vehicles (4 M-3 Bradleys, 4 M-1's) per platoon(plus some infantry). I think 4 platoons per troop and like 4 troops per squadron, which ties into a regiment some how.
In WWII the Germans sometimes had armor platoons w/ 5 vehicles each although attrition usually kept this lower.
The breakdowns for the modern USN carrier air seem right although F/A-18's will phase out Tomcats.
A note about the jap carriers at Midway. Due to the earlier arms talks in the 30's, the Japanese were forced to "decommision" some battlecruisers which the then turned into the Kaga and Akagi, kind of like what we did w/ the origional Ranger, our first carrier (converted cruiser). Anyway, that is why the carrier wings were so different for them. They had basically two light carriers, 2 coverted battlecruisers(w/ different designs) and 2 "built from the keel up" carriers. Kind of an oddball assortment.
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April 26th, 2001, 06:54 PM
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Re: Question for those who were/are in the armed services...
Just to correct Nerfman, the USNs first carrier was the Langley. Then the Lex and Toga were made from battlecruisers. The Ranger was a purpose built carrier, not converted. I think the only US carriers converted from other ships, after the Lex and Toga, were the CVEs and CVLs.
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April 26th, 2001, 10:21 PM
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Re: Question for those who were/are in the armed services...
If you need it, I have the MTOE for:
38th Infantry Division and all subordinates
82nd Airborne Division and all subordinates
for 1999-2004. As for historical, I have some TOEs for 9th ID during WW2 and 7th Cav for Vietnam...
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April 26th, 2001, 11:02 PM
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Re: Question for those who were/are in the armed services...
You guys have been great! I got a lot more feedback than I expected. Thanx to all of you.
( I jus' luv this forum )
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April 26th, 2001, 11:07 PM
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Re: Question for those who were/are in the armed services...
Jourin
I retired from the Army after 26 years about 9 months ago. I was a Cobra pilot...spent over 10 years in the Air Cav at various locations. Although having been in the 1st, 4th, and 17th Cav Regiments..never been in the 1st Cav Div. The Sabre21 I use was my callsign in Korea back in 92-93. I have had others..some not as endearing..hehe..like Troll..i'm still called that by a lot of my old friends. I also did a tour as a ground pounder before flight school in a recon platoon with the 82nd...so over half my career was in the Cav.
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April 27th, 2001, 01:18 AM
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Re: Question for those who were/are in the armed services...
Mav - my bad, I got mixed up on the names. Langly was an old collier and the Saratoga and Lex are as you say. That is what I get for rattling off a bunch of crap while sitting at my desk at work and doing two other things. Just trying to point out that the Jap carriers at Midway were a hodge podge mix and that there really was no standard carrier air wing since their ships were so different.
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