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Old September 11th, 2006, 12:45 AM
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Saturday, September 09, 2006

OTTAWA -- Less than three weeks after denying it was sending Leopard tanks to Afghanistan, the Canadian military is set to ship as many as 20 of the heavy tracked armoured vehicles to Kandahar.

Although the tanks have been used once overseas on a peace support mission in Kosovo in the 1990s, this is the first time they will be sent into an actual combat situation.

A warning order was issued earlier this week to the Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians) in Edmonton to prepare for the deployment. Twenty tanks are being readied for the operation and about 300 personnel will be heading to Afghanistan.

The Leopards will be used for escort duty for Canadian convoys, which have continually come under attack by the Taliban, government sources said. In addition, some soldiers have suggested the presence of tanks would make insurgents think twice about attacking Canadian convoys.

The decision to ratchet up Canada's force in Afghanistan comes as military officers acknowledge they underestimated the resilience of the Taliban. NATO has been asking for more equipment and soldiers from its allies to deal with the increasing threat in southern Afghanistan.

But government sources said the decision behind sending the tanks to Afghanistan is to provide Canada's Provincial Reconstruction Teams more protection rather than to use the armoured vehicles directly in combat against the Taliban.

Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor has said he plans to put more emphasis on the teams, which provide medical and humanitarian help to Afghan civilians. Part of that is increasing the protection for those teams, which use light armored vehicles and armored trucks called G-Wagons.

"The protection levels aren't adequate over there," said one source. Besides convoy escort, the tanks would be used to rush to the aid of light armored vehicles that have been ambushed by the Taliban.

Canada currently has more than 2,000 military personnel in Afghanistan.

It will take at least a month to get the Leopards over to Afghanistan but that deployment could speed up if the U.S. military ships the vehicles using its large transport aircraft. Otherwise the tanks will be sent by ship.

In the late 1990s, the Canadian Forces spent $145 million to upgrade its 114 Leopards with new computers and heat-sensing equipment to improve their fighting capability.

On Aug. 24 the Ottawa Citizen reported military maintenance crews were working overtime to prepare the service's Leopard tanks for deployment and several soldiers told the newspaper the vehicles were headed to Afghanistan. The Canadian Forces, however, said the tanks were destined for an exercise at Canadian Forces Base Wainwright, Alta.

The tank has made a comeback in the army, which had been switching over to an entirely wheeled fleet of armored vehicles.

Army commander Lt.-Gen. Andrew Leslie has made it clear he wants troops to retain their skills in working with tanks.

The Leopards were in the process of being mothballed or sold off but with the Afghan war heating up army commanders put a halt to that process in May.

Canadian and NATO troops, along with the Afghan army, are currently in battle with an estimated 700 Taliban near Kandahar city.

According to NATO officials, the force taking part in Operation Medusa is closing the circle around the besieged insurgents. There, have, however, been reports that fresh reinforcements of Taliban are moving into the area to fight the Canadians.

Five Canadian soldiers were killed over the Labour Day long weekend during the operation. One died when U.S. warplanes mistakenly opened fire. Four others were killed in battles with the Taliban.

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Default Re: Interesting Note on Canadian Future Armor.

The C2 Leopard has been deployed to Afganistan. The Canadian government paid to have them shipped air cargo. It is likely that the striker program will be re-thought based upon recient combat experiences.
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Now that Hizbolla, North Korea, Syria ,Iran...etc... have a lot of Kornet and Metis it doesn't make any difference: neither the C2 nor the Stryker are able to stand against that: it'seems clear to me that the problem should not be considered on an armor basis...
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Yup, because the soviets had lot´s of armor and more forces in A´stan. Result was ? And don´t post, that we (the western nations) are better than the soviets. At least we are occupieres for most of the population. Neither in Iraq nor in A´stan the ppl. like western occupation.
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