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May 24th, 2001, 05:09 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
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"play against other humans in the manner in which most human being would consider the proper way."
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When you say "most human beings" I assume you mean "most MSG junkie 17 year olds with an attention span of 4 minutes". Play by email (and play by snailmail) games hav been good enough for most people for a very very long time - long before TCP/IP was invented. Never played postal chess?
I prefer PBEM because I don't have time in my life to sit down and stare at a screen for 10 hours at a time. (except at work=-)Plenty of others in this forum are in the same position. Personally I think the introduction of TCP/IP could ruin my enjoymnt of SEIV.
I need my strategy in small packages because I do other things too. I like having a day to think about my next turn in quiet moments. Just because you have no patience, don't assume we don't either.
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May 24th, 2001, 05:41 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Just a quick note guys.
This is coming from an offshoot of a post to another forum. The original poster decided to attack Aaron and myself on a forum on cdmag and attempted to call both of immoral and unethical and other such nonsense.
I am upset about this but let's keep it somewhat low key as maybe you guys can convince him otherwise. However with his posting on the cgOnline.com forum I somewhat doubt it, but there's always hope.
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May 24th, 2001, 06:44 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Richard I will respect your request, but sometimes people like this "person" need to be addressed.
I've been a gamer for over 40 years and I can say this
1st - this person is not a "gamer"
2nd - If he had the demo in Sept as he claims he knew what the game was like, therefore his statments are more then likely false
3rd - SEIV is one of the best computer strategy games ever put on the market, and with the modders additions, I don't know of any other game that can compare with the Ai
4th - Both you and Aaron have given and continue to give the "best support then any other gaming company, designer, or programer in the industry".
5th - This person sounds and appears to be someone who just wants to stir up trouble and in fact, I rather even doubt if this "person" actually has played the game let alone the mods
6th - If this "person" wanted to play other human players, why hasn't "it" played hotseat like a lot of the rest of us.
7th - therefore, I for one do not take anything "it" says to be other then what it realy is, and that is #$%^%$.
8th - I could go on but I hope "it" gets the point, and further if "it" doesn't like then "go to some other forum, we don't want or need persons of your unstable character here taking up space.
9th - I apoligize to you Richard and Aaron for my long winded post, and to all you other guys and gals on this forum, but this "person" needs to be taken to task
I again apoligize to everyone
just some ideas Mac
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May 24th, 2001, 07:15 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
I am in a PBEM game with 4 other guys on http://seiv.admiral.com where we have gone through 44 turns in the Last 20 days. That's over 2 turns a day average, not a "turn every 2 days."
That probably wouldn't be fast enough for some people waiting on TCP/IP, but I think its pretty damn good considering we all have jobs and live in different time zones.
In fact we'd probably be up to turn 60 by now, but the Last week or so I have been very busy with other things and have not been able to keep up my normal pace.
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May 24th, 2001, 07:39 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Well I have had enough of it to be honest, I just can't please some people.
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May 24th, 2001, 07:42 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
quote: Originally posted by Deathstalker:
DAMN I love this game. And as to company support, in a world where games are fired out at us WAY b4 they are ready (anyone remember the Battlecruiser fiasco a few years ago?) I think MM has supported this game quite above and beyond the call of duty.
NO, DEATHSTALKER, NO!
I agree with everything you're saying, but I just cringed when you mentioned Battlecruiser. Don't you know Derek Smart's reputation? It is said that if you mention his name or his games three times in ANY forum, ANYWHERE on the internet, he will appear to defend himself and rip you a new one
Kind of like the old saying, "speak of the devil, and he appears"
Oh, and as for you, Kagetora, you're a whining little dick. Go away.
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May 24th, 2001, 07:42 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
quote: Originally posted by mac5732:
9th - I apoligize to you Richard and Aaron for my long winded post, and to all you other guys and gals on this forum, but this "person" needs to be taken to task
Why bother? It won't do any good. He's just looking for attention. Ignore him and maybe he'll go away.
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May 24th, 2001, 07:44 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Some people would complain if they won the lottery. I think this may the case here.
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May 24th, 2001, 08:17 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Simple - If you don't like a game, you don't play it.
No one in the world has liked everything they have ever purchased. It's part of life to try things and learn from those experiances.
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May 24th, 2001, 08:32 PM
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Re: This game is an expensive coaster
Not surprisingly, you people have no clue what you are talking about. Those that feel as I do about this game haven't been sitting here posting about how great this unfinished product is. We have been patiently waiting for more than 8 months for the product we already paid for to be delivered. As to the mods, Aaron didn't even write those. How can you give credit to his game for an AI that he didn't even participate in creating? You all know as well as I do that TCP/IP play was implied, promised whatever you want to call it for this game and it hasn't been delivered. Instead, Aaron has supposedly been catering to the miniscule minority of mod makers and players of such while ignoring the vast majority of those who are waiting for the internet opinion in silence. As to better games, I haven't even finished a game of this because playing the AI is the equivelent of beating up a baby and taking it's juice and just about as much fun too. Any game I can actually play would be a vast improvement.
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