Vote: Who is still playing SEV ?

[Will]

Voted "haven't played for weeks", but it's really "months". But that's more due to major life changes than to the state of the game. I haven't had a period of time where I could just sit down for 2 or 3 hours and just explore the game, there have always been other things that took priority. I wouldn't want to join in on a PBW/PbEM game until I took the time with the game individually, especially since I haven't really played anything except the demo. I have the full game, and I installed and played for an hour or so when the first patch came out, but then I had to pack up everything and move. So, haven't come back to it since.

I actually think I might take a shot at PBWv2 in some of my weekend spare time someday soon. The major hurdle I had been facing is not knowing what needed to go into the design of an application like PBW, but I've been doing nothing but JSPs and servlets at work for the past two months, so I have a much better idea of how to go about things now. I'll post a new thread if I ever actually get that started. You will forgive me if I sneak in a few SEIV and SEV games before I do

[Atrocities]

The UI makes it impossible to play. Sorry guys, but after many months of continuous play I have come to the conclusion that while the game is good, the UI makes it too much like a job and thereby to frustrating for me to play.

I should not get depressed playing a game, and regrettably SE V depresses me horribly. The damn UI is just so user unfriendly.

[Xietor]

SEV is an embarrassment. They made money on it, but marketed an inferior product. It is a shame it was not tested more and fixed before release. SEiv was good mp, but the AI is terrible.

But at least SEiv is playable. No game, calling itself a game, should take 5 minutes to do a turn. That is just absurd.
And on a computer that runs WOW with no lag issues too.

[GuyOfDoom]

But at least SEiv is playable. No game, calling itself a game, should take 5 minutes to do a turn. That is just absurd.

What kind of TURN based games do you play? Any turn based game takes time between turns.

[Yimboli]

Of course all turn based games take time to process turns. Without trying to sound rude, I'm simply not sure what the point of your post was.

At any rate, I think Xietor is trying to say SE5 takes too long to process turns. I'm inclined to agree.

At least that's what I took from it.

[Xietor]

I play tons of turn based games, and none take the time SEV takes. In fact, even SEIV does not take nearly as long. It is obviously a bug that has not been fixed prior to release.

I have played about every good turn based game that has come out in the past 15 years, going all the way back to vga planets, masters of might and magic, and the original civilization.

[GuyOfDoom]

It's clear there is still a processing lag with the AI that hardly makes it the worst game ever, or a total ripoff.

[Fyron]

Xietor said:
In fact, even SEIV does not take nearly as long.

It is a non-sequitor to compare SE4 and SE5 processing times when combat occurs (not to mention every other TBS game with non-RT combat). There is nothing at all comparable between a simple turn-based combat system and a real time combat engine. Real time combat (in SE5) has on the order of 20 rounds per second of combat time to deal with. Compare that to the simple 30 rounds of SE4, the non-rounds of Civ/GalCiv1 simple att/def calculations, etc. Comparing to something like Rome: Total War has merit (though its combats are an order of magnitude less complex than SE5), but not anything with simple turn-based combat.

Could it be faster? Yes. Is Aaron working hard to make it faster? Yes.

[Suicide Junkie]

The best games of SE4 take over an hour to process for a hearty battle.

[se5a]

how long do the total war serries take to do AI turns when there are large battles?