Minor German OOB error

[PanzerBob]

Just my couple pfennings worth…………………

I amended all StuG’s years ago, and do so every version of the game I've had.

Early StuG's carried a MG34 as soon as it became apparent they needed them. These were not a mounted so I've using a LMG in the second weapons slot for Ausf A-E.

The Ausf F-G had a mount for a shielded MG I know this has been added as a AAMG, but my belief is a MMG is more realistic. So all my F-G models have a MMG. I give the Late Ausf G’s a MG42 MMG.

As for a BMG or CMG I've heard of these too, but I've never seen them in any picture, so I've excluded them when they do appear. This of course is IMHO. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Grenade.gif[/img]

[Shan]

PanzerBob,

the thing with using an MMG (or a BMG - we take it as a shielded MG but use the BMG: fires only over the frontal arc and cannot be buttoned up by suppression) instead sounds reasonable. I'll have a look at the stats in comparison with the AAMG version and might adopt your model. I know that the shielded MG could also be mounted on top of the shield to function as an AAMG but they are very ineffective in this role the game so that can be sacrificed. ON the other hand, AAMGs in this game have a much-to-high precision against ground targets IMHO, they also take advantage of the FC and (in MBT) Vision ratings of the vehicle they're mounted on, which is real nonsense in most cases, so replacing them with MMGs is a bit unnecessary anyways.

[blitzkreig]

Stug Ausf A & B

Just for interest sake thought I'd post the differenace bewtween the two

Ausf A:

60 produced, produced and delivered from april to September 1940 including 30 on the Ausf B chasis whith the old Maybarch SRG 32 * 45 transmission whcih were desinated Auf A

Ausf B:

Mass porduced from July 1940 - March 1941 with 250 being made.

"This new version of the Sturmgeschutz used a SSG 77 Trasnmisson and new steering gear. Its tracks were wider and the suspension components changed accordingly. The return rollers which had been evenly spaced on previous models, were now unevenly spaced"

from "Standard catalog of German Military Vehicles" by David Doyle 2005. In game terms the only diffeneces were the service dates.

No stug ever mounted a bow machine gum by the way!

[PanzerBob]

Shan

Have not changed any for V 3.0 yet, I do agree that the AAMG is much too effective to simulate a LMG. If AAMG are confirmed as being able to only fire unbuttoned then I may develop an AAMG just to simulate the loose one carried in StuG's and StuH's.

Not for PBEM of course.

[DRG]

That unit was altered like that over 4 years ago because, as I recall, it was shown to be common practice to use the SMG for close self defense in some units so you have the StuG IIIa with only the main armament or the StuG IIIb coving pretty much the same time period with the SMG

Don