Monkeys cry for changes?

[lch]

And I actually meant Patala. I'm rather sleepy.

Here are the graphs from that game, although they don't really give justice to showing how far ahead I was to the rest: http://valhalla.techno-mage.com/webs...game=oomermaid

If there's a nation that could maybe require an overhaul then I'd rather look at Jomon/Shinuyama. They didn't really look that strong to me. But that's just an impression that I got while playing against them, can't say anything until I played with them myself. The apes rather surprised me, too.

[Edi]

The animal siege penalty thing is what needs overhauling since the monkeys have a hard time denting any walls.

[Wick]

Maybe they should just be able to climb the walls? :-)

[Randvek]

lch said:
I did the unspeakable and won by Kailasa! And I had a grand time while doing so!

Ich, I think you could win a game with nothing but hoburgs. Take this guy on in multiplayer at your own risk.

[Humakty]

Bandar Log as several good points going for it :
-recruitable everywhere sacreds : with enougth indep priests, you can attack with lots of them on turn one, or use less priests, decoys and hold & attack
-Their low level conjuration summons (low cost too) makes this nation a hich astral, earth, water and nature nation ; for a game wich is all about magic it should help a bit.
The only point on which I agree with Ano is the pitifull siege capacity. And the OH MY GOD THIS PD IS RUBISH !!!!

[Meglobob]

I think Machaka needs help more than the monkey nations that have had plenty of attention. Machaka is looking seriously old and outdated, its a very unpopular nation in MP. In fact I think its largely forgot about.

Hopefully, Machaka will get its much overdue overall and we will get the EA Machaka nations and a LA nation? Plus plenty of new national spells please, just like the monkey nations who have tons.

[Humakty]

I fully agree Machaka is less powerfull than Bandar (never played Patala) : no specific spells, worse PD ( we should organize a PD deathmatch to know for sure), meh sacreds (capitol only "en plus"),and a far worse magic diversity.

OH !! I forgot your best mages die like flies from old age.(but you cab burn 120 points to "solve" the problem)

Ah, they've got spiders. Original and sometimes usefull (versus small elite groups)

[Drake49]

Markata have a morale of 7. In your dominion it gets bumped to eight, which is enought that the little cowards MIGHT make a morale roll. In enemy Dominion, they have a morale of 6. Six.

I ran three fights with 5 Heavy Infantry and an Independent commander against 10 Monkey PD in enemy dominion. The Monkey PD lost every fight. 2 total Heavy Infantry killed in all the fights.

I then ran three fights with 5 Heavy Infantry and an Independent commander against 20 Monkey PD in enemy dominion. The Monkey PD did win. But in one of the fights the Melee Markata had broken, and they are half the PD, so auto-route was looming.

It seems pretty obvious that 10 Heavy Infantry and an Independent commander could easily take 20 PD. And that is absurd.

Even giant PD would probably win that fight. They do have 10 militia. Weak units, but they would be able to break through the enemy armour and kill them.

[PvK]

Monkeys cry for changes? Maybe their morale should be reduced to reflect that.