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June 12th, 2008, 03:57 AM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
Meeters are logical - if a campaign starts you have to get to the enemy first
I've had a full range - river assaults, assaults, defends, advances and delays - in my generated BAOR'86 campaign.
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June 12th, 2008, 05:40 AM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
And I have just advanced my Egyptian 1973 campaign to battle no. 4 - on reloading the savegame several times, battle 4 was then offered as meeter (once), delay (twice), defend (one), advance (once) and special battle (one).
It seems that the first 3 battles of a generated campaign are being limited to meeters, same as for the PBEM campaign. I had intended that only battle one should be a guaranteed meeter if a non-PBEM generated LC, but I can live with 3 initial meeting engagements. Past battle 3, the normal randomness ensues.
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June 12th, 2008, 08:57 AM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
I ran a generated Russian Campaign to the fourth battle and was offered a Delay ( three times ) defend ( once ) , assault ( once ) and a special battle (once).
The first three battles were meeters.
The attack helo problem is a separate issue and will be looked into
Don
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June 12th, 2008, 04:09 PM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
As stated before, the campaign I've been running had produced only meeters since v4 upgrade, but clearly this could just be coincidence so I ran tests in that campaign from the end of battle 21 (yes, it's a long campaign!).
I ran the next battle 25 times, which seems a lot but statistically is a small sample with a margin of error.
Results:
Meeter 8 (24%)
Advance 5 (20%)
Assault 2 (8%)
Delay 1 (4%)
Defend 4 (16%)
Special(advance) 2 (8%)
Special (assault) 2 (8%)
Special (delay) 1 (4%)
Special (defend) 0
Clearly there is not a problem per se with meeters, what I and others saw is just coincidence. Meeter appears to be the most probable outcome so it is not surprising that 3 or 4 battles in a row could be of that type, and it is somewhat less probable that the same could happen with the other types. But running the set-up again will ultimately give a different option, so those who don't like meeters have the option to roll again.
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Tim
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June 13th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
Well, good to know. Unfortunately I will have to wait a bit longer to find out of myself since I accidentaly saved another battle over my campaign...
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June 14th, 2008, 07:47 PM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
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Well, good to know. Unfortunately I will have to wait a bit longer to find out of myself since I accidentaly saved another battle over my campaign...
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You could use a backup program to automatically create a copy of the files in the Saved Games folder. There are plenty of free programs about, and they can be scheduled to backup at a fixed time or run manually, i.e. end of every session of play.
I always save every turn of every battle, worse case scenario I might have to go back in time but wouldn't lose the whole campaign.
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Tim
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June 14th, 2008, 11:47 PM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
Thanks for the suggestion, but this is the first time I overwrite a save game of steel panthers in, what is it now, 12-13 years?
Of course, I am older than 12-13 years ago, but still.
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June 15th, 2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
I have re-loaded many times in the generated campaign, after battle 3, you still only get meeting engagements.
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June 22nd, 2008, 01:44 PM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
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I have re-loaded many times in the generated campaign, after battle 3, you still only get meeting engagements.
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And as I noted in post #615131 above I ran a Russian Generated campaign to game four and was offered " a Delay ( three times ) defend ( once ) , assault ( once ) and a special battle (once)." and others have found the same thing so perhaps you could tell me exactly which nation you were playing and which opponents you were playing against and what year etc etc so I can run the same test you are running. Or , better still post this campaign you are having problems with and then everyone can try it ?
Don
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June 27th, 2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: Meeting engagements problem
Erm, probably a dumb question, but why can't a campaign begin with an assault or delay?
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