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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 Why not just give a Black Servant a leper rod or something? I guess that still doesn't let you thug out Umbrals, but at least you can have stealthy Umbral armies.
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				July 8th, 2008, 04:43 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 I don't think he was complaining that Agartha needs a "boost" to become more powerful.  Just that there is this wealth of underground content that is begging to be unleashed on the surface world, and Agartha is currently the only vehicle that can carry it.     |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 The Ageless Olm is clearly the olmtimate weapon!
 I use him as a nice thematic mellow low-cost pretender and/or for EW bless or scales. He can support an army and survive attempts to kill him with things which would work against weaker pretenders, but I'd not try to make him be a super combatant.
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				July 8th, 2008, 06:00 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 Of the three new nations, Gath, Ashdod and hinnomafter playing extensively, I would argue hinnom is super strong (hell I took out vanheim in a rush! in MP) but the other nations I would argue are weak.
 
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				July 8th, 2008, 06:20 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 Ashdod weak? Wow. I'm tapering off on Ashdod play in SP because I'm starting to feel guilty using them, like I used to feel guilty about Helheim (pre-Svartalf-adjustment) because the game is too easy. Ashdod is Niefelheim-strength sacreds with EA C'tis and LA Agartha's mages, plus Pythium's national summons. Very, very solid, very flexible. Hire Obscuro to forge some Winged Boots and there is NOTHING I want in a nation that I don't have in Ashdod.
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 Sorry for going a little OT, but as we're talking about Agarthan pretenders... Did anybody try the Drakaina as a pretender? Her theme and flavour seems a masterpiece to me ^^ 
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 I've been railing the CPU-controlled enemy Drakaina that Atlantis has been using. Maybe the CPU is just horribly misusing her, but my Olm has been eating her for breakfast.
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 What I've been liking about the Olms is their 0 supply usage. I have several armies of "better" troops, that keep running out of food.
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 I didn't think Olms were recruitable or summonable--I thought you only got them as multiheroes. How do you get enough Olms for supply to be an issue?
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				 Re: The Ancient Olm, a viable strategy? 
 I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Agarthans themselves there.  They have NNE, which is an incredible boon of course, if only they could face LA Ermor.....    |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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