Mexico Drug War becoming fact - Page 2

Skirmisher · #1 February 19th, 2009, 01:42 PM

If the United States didn't spend 10 billion dollars a year on drugs this wouldn't be happening.

Anthony_Scott · #2 February 23rd, 2009, 07:58 PM

Another superb article dealing with the topic. I want to design scenarios like the firefight in Reynosa but the lack of Mexican OOb is frustrating.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/c...?story_id=4684

The quote that makes me want to design scenarios is this:

"The outgunned Mexican law enforcement authorities face armed criminal attacks from platoon-sized units employing night vision goggles, electronic intercept collection, encrypted communications, fairly sophisticated information operations, sea-going submersibles, helicopters and modern transport aviation, automatic weapons, RPG’s, Anti-Tank 66 mm rockets, mines and booby traps, heavy machine guns, 50 [caliber] sniper rifles, massive use of military hand grenades, and the most modern models of 40mm grenade machine guns."

So in essence it is a platoon-level street combat between small forces. Is that a workable scale in the game?

Semper Fi, Carry On

Skirmisher · #3 February 23rd, 2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony_Scott

So in essence it is a platoon-level street combat between small forces. Is that a workable scale in the game?

Semper Fi, Carry On

Check out what I did in the Cartel Crackdown scenario. It's basically what your looking for. Theres some Mexican made weapons that just arent availible in the stock OOB's but using green I was able to simulate the Federal Police and the Cartels
reasonably well. I know the equipment I gave everybody isn't 100 percent acurate but it's the best I could do.

cbreedon · #4 February 23rd, 2009, 10:45 PM

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Check out what I did in the Cartel Crackdown scenario. It's basically what your looking for. Theres some Mexican made weapons that just arent availible in the stock OOB's but using green I was able to simulate the Federal Police and the Cartels
reasonably well. I know the equipment I gave everybody isn't 100 percent acurate but it's the best I could do.

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Where is this scenario?

Skirmisher · #5 February 24th, 2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cbreedon

Where is this scenario?

At the moment its about 5 posts below this one in the
270-Cartel Crackdown thread.

The zip file for the scenario can be found there.

Skirmisher · #6 February 23rd, 2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony_Scott

I want to design scenarios like the firefight in Reynosa but the lack of Mexican OOb is frustrating.

Don't be discouraged. The Green OOB is for that purpose. Use the capture feature and use anything you need from the rest of the world.

Believe it or not alot of player's of this game get a brain cramp when the subject of alternate oob's come up. I mean if you make a scenario you want as many people as possible to be able to play it.
But if you use somebodies custom OOB's (no matter how good or historically acurate they are) ,you limit the amount of people that are going to play it.

cbreedon · #7 February 23rd, 2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skirmisher

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Originally Posted by Anthony_Scott

I want to design scenarios like the firefight in Reynosa but the lack of Mexican OOb is frustrating.

Don't be discouraged. The Green OOB is for that purpose. Use the capture feature and use anything you need from the rest of the world.

Believe it or not alot of player's of this game get a brain cramp when the subject of alternate oob's come up. I mean if you make a scenario you want as many people as possible to be able to play it.
But if you use somebodies custom OOB's (no matter how good or historically acurate they are) ,you limit the amount of people that are going to play it.

I wouldn't mind using the green so much.. It is just the flag issue I have. I may make some flags and use the green and overwrite some country I don't use. Any suggestions as to what country would model Mexico as far as morale, and leadership, etc?

Skirmisher · #8 February 24th, 2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cbreedon

I wouldn't mind using the green so much.. It is just the flag issue I have. I may make some flags and use the green and overwrite some country I don't use. Any suggestions as to what country would model Mexico as far as morale, and leadership, etc?

I don't know as far as which country would be the nearest to Mexico's training levels. You could just make green Mexico. Make the flag Mexican and Scrap the OOB, being that Green is supposed to represent generic latin america.

I recently learned that Mexico is the worlds 13th largest economy. I'm abit curious why the developers didn't drop one of those african nations and include mexico.

Skirmisher · #9 March 12th, 2009, 10:02 PM

Double Deuce,

Check out this article,it sounds alot like your original drugwar text.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7941043.stm

Double_Deuce · #10 March 13th, 2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skirmisher

Check out this article,it sounds alot like your original drugwar text.

I have read that over the last 6 years there have been about 150,000 desertions from the Mexican Army including sizable numbers of their Special Ops guys. That would make a sizable force for any military to have to deal with, especially if they received any decent training before deserting. I'd say the only reason it hasn't spilled over the border is that the US hasn't really hurt the drug trade business. If the US was to really crack down I bet we would see things getting ugly very quickly. I wonder America response to seeing our citizen's heads dumped on our own streets?

Found some more interesting stuff here: Police: U.S. teens were hit men for Mexican cartel