CEV's and Dragons teeth

[Double_Deuce]

Originally Posted by phil74501

My CEVs just bypass the hexes. I think I even tried using the shift key to get them to move into the hexes with the dragons teeth in them. Still didn't work.

I'm playing a scenario that has a bunch of them in it. I messed with them, but couldn't get them to work. Least not the way I thought they were supposed to work.

They shouldn't be bypassing them unless you are clicking on a space (to move to) that is beyond the obstacle hex. For D/T, iirc, vehicles cannot enter the hex.

I was doing some testing and found in my scenario the following hexes cleared when the below vehicles were parked in front of an pointing at the hex;

M60 Mine Plough (Minclearing Tank)

MINES - 2 Turns
D/T - 3 Turns
WIRE - 3 Turns

M278 CEV (Engineer Tank)

MINES - 2 Turns
D/T - 2 Turns
WIRE - 3 Turns

This was without any enemy fire.

[Wdll]

So, basicaly engineer tanks are useless and you might as well get a mineclear tank if you can, instead of an engineer tank, right?

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Wdll

So, basicaly engineer tanks are useless and you might as well get a mineclear tank if you can, instead of an engineer tank, right?

No......... did you not Andys read post ???

Engineer tank class clears D/T better than Mine-clear tank class

and Mikes test a few posts back demonstrates that

Don

[Marek_Tucan]

Originally Posted by Wdll

So, basicaly engineer tanks are useless and you might as well get a mineclear tank if you can, instead of an engineer tank, right?

Or vice versa mineclear tanks are useless

[Wdll]

Sorry, not enough sleep last few days.

[Suhiir]

Personally I prefer engineer vehicles to mine clearing ones.
Engineer vehicles generally have a dozer blade rather then a flail or roller thus get bonus to their front hull armor, particularly VS HEAT ammo (i.e. the hordes of RPG's the AI tends to have).

[Hermit]

Shouldn't the flails or rollers provide the same extra protection from HEAT rounds? IIRC, the Israeli Merkava has chains dangling from the turret overhang specifically to provide protection from HEAT warheads that might otherwise hit the vulnerable turret ring.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by Hermit

Shouldn't the flails or rollers provide the same extra protection from HEAT rounds? IIRC, the Israeli Merkava has chains dangling from the turret overhang specifically to provide protection from HEAT warheads that might otherwise hit the vulnerable turret ring.

Before posting, it would have been easier to open up Mobhack and actually have a look at some Mineclearing vehicles. This would have answered your query in just a few seconds.

E.g. see the USA OOB, units #194, 196, 197, 198, 199, 616, 653, 685, or USSR OOB - e.g #491, 492 etc.

Easily found by selecting File-> Database Check Utilities, then pressing the Unit Checks button, and then selecting unit class 36 in the Find Units tab, or entering mine into the search box if you did not know the class number.

Compare and contrast the front HEAT armour of these units with the standard gun versions.

Andy