Newbie suffering from unrest - Page 2

Frozen Lama · #1 May 17th, 2009, 05:48 PM

what could also be happening, is the random villan or boar events happened several turns ago, and they keep raising unrest until they get found, and maybe you just have been really unlucky trying to find them.

llamabeast · #2 May 17th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Although in that case you would have got the messages in the first place, a few turns ago.

Toni_Bubu · #3 May 17th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Well, I just gotta place my bet on patrolling and finding those pesky satyrs.Got no blood and can't get any, and there were no random events of any kind that would fit the unrest.

But it is kind of strange though, according to the graphs he doesn't have that much army left and would probably be better off defending his fort...

Tolkien · #4 May 17th, 2009, 07:17 PM

I doubt it would be Pangaea. Unrest doesn't just happen if troops are in the province: they'd need to have spies set to instill unrest or have heretic commanders (both of which I don't think any in EA has).

So likely it's just unrest causing sites.

Toni_Bubu · #5 May 17th, 2009, 07:24 PM

What? Heretic commanders can do that? I've got Arco south of me, I've never really played them, but I seem to recall they have heretics. That would mean my peace with Arco is based on thin ice.

Calahan · #6 May 17th, 2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tolkien

I doubt it would be Pangaea. Unrest doesn't just happen if troops are in the province:

Please don't spread false knowledge as that will only serve to confuse new players.

If you are uncertain about any game mechanic, then just run a test game. This test in particular is very easy to do. Just start a game as Pan, recruit a load of Satyr Sneaks, and watch your unrest go through the roof.

Toni_Bubu · #7 May 17th, 2009, 08:22 PM

Well, Calahan, you're right about playtesting, I should have read the troop description more carefully. It says there, clear as you like: "Satyr sneaks cause unrest in the province they dwell." Seems like I have some problems reading properly at the moment.

I just tried it out, recruited a ton of satyrs in my home province hand hit the e button a coupla times... Ét voilá, 65 unrest after 4 turns with about 40 satyrs in my home province.

While I am now conviced that this is the most likely scenario, what about Arco? It says in heretics' description that they "weaken faith in false gods" so this presumably refers to dominion (as in the nation's description). So does enemy dominion increase unrest or doesn't it? After all, there could be more than one cause for unrest...

Calahan · #8 May 17th, 2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Toni_Bubu

....what about Arco? It says in heretics' description that they "weaken faith in false gods" so this presumably refers to dominion (as in the nation's description). So does enemy dominion increase unrest or doesn't it? After all, there could be more than one cause for unrest...

Heretics don't cause unrest. View Heretics (and Stone Idols carries) as the atheists of the Dominions world. They don't believe in any Gods, and will try to bring the Dominion in a province back to neutral. So they are a great way to bring down an opponents dominion, but you don't want any hanging around in your own dominion. (unless you want to keep your dominion down, as some nations might eg. MA/LA Mictlan, MA C'tis)

Tolkien · #9 May 17th, 2009, 07:27 PM

Oh yeah, the Skeptics. Forgot about those.

Yes, Heretics can do that. They lower Dominion and Raise unrest.

So it seems like Ghostriders is eventful for you, huh? Me, I'm just chilling.

Again, I'd consider Brigand lairs and those blood sites first.

Toni_Bubu · #10 May 17th, 2009, 07:32 PM

I should've read the poster's name! Well, your welcome to the intel...

What happened to PAR anyway? It looked really good for him in the beginning. I'm just glad that I'm not the first nation to be annihilated in my first game!