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Old July 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM

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Default Re: MA Bretonnia: Compulsory hype/brainstorming thread.

I hope some of the knights (realm and grail particularly) are getting a special version of the dom3 lance which is a bit boosted (to represent lance formation from WHFB).

The magic on the damsel concerns me a little bit, but I guess the chances of getting a 4 aren't great, especially with it being a cap only. They're clealy superior to regular level 3-4 wizards with their special rules and being able to choose from 3 schools, but as mages they do just start at level 3, so they can't be too nuts. I appreciate they will be very expensive though, especially since they have H3.

I think the #standard mod command is going to come up a lot for these guys too. Be sure to make the levy guys suitably awful in the morale department! Breton PD feels like it should be a lot stronger once 20+, almost immediately - they are pretty famous for defending the noble lands and forts really well, but letting the peasants suffer (since the whole 'duty to protect the weak' thing is largely suggested to be feudal justifying bull**** in WH).
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Old July 12th, 2009, 05:23 AM
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I hope some of the knights (realm and grail particularly) are getting a special version of the dom3 lance which is a bit boosted (to represent lance formation from WHFB).
Good idea. I was wondering about how I could implement lance formation. "Breton Lance".

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The magic on the damsel concerns me a little bit, but I guess the chances of getting a 4 aren't great, especially with it being a cap only. They're clealy superior to regular level 3-4 wizards with their special rules and being able to choose from 3 schools, but as mages they do just start at level 3, so they can't be too nuts. I appreciate they will be very expensive though, especially since they have H3.
The chances for a damsel to pick up level 4 in either A/W/N is about 4%. Many of them will also be crippled in combat by a single S pick. And yeah, they are kind of weakened by having their picks be all over the place instead of concentrated power. (what will you do with a A2W2N2E1S1 Damsel?)

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I think the #standard mod command is going to come up a lot for these guys too. Be sure to make the levy guys suitably awful in the morale department! Breton PD feels like it should be a lot stronger once 20+, almost immediately - they are pretty famous for defending the noble lands and forts really well, but letting the peasants suffer (since the whole 'duty to protect the weak' thing is largely suggested to be feudal justifying bull**** in WH).
Yeah, the noble commanders will all get standard. Small for the Lord, moderate for Marquis, huge for Duke and massive! for the Hero.

PD to 1 to 20 will just men-at-arms, peasant bowmen and the bretonnian lord and his honor guard of Knight Errants. At PD 20+ you'll start getting Knights of the Realm (both footed and mounted) and a Marquis with his honor guard. Moving from peasants straight to the Knight of the Realm is a bit of jump, but like you said, it's thematic.
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Yay Breton, once it's complete it will be such a hard choice between Skaven and Bretonia for me.

A couple things, Merlin as a hero. Not so sure as I've always thought him more Empire then Bretonia. But then considering Arthurian styles he does fit.
As for another summon. What about the idea to summon some Wood Elves. Since we have the Forest of Loren right there.
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As for another summon. What about the idea to summon some Wood Elves. Since we have the Forest of Loren right there.
The relations between Bretons and Wood Elves are.. complicated*. I decided to do away with the "fey" and stuff, at least until someone decides to do the Wood Elf nation.




*a'k'a in ancient times, the wood elf quuen appeared before the first king of bretonnia and gave him a drink from the grail, starting the faith of the lady of the lake. Then the elves started kidnapping all breton children with magical abilites when they were just couple months old. the males are brainwashed to act as mindless slaves for the Wood Elves. The females are brainwashed too, but taught magic and sent on bretonnian courts to order the nobles and keep status quo (that's Grail Damsels for you). And why did the elves do a mindf*ck of this level?

Apparently they just wanted a buffer of a friendly human nation at their border. So yeah, Lady of the Lake, the revered deity of hundreds of thousands, is just a hoax by the Wood Elves for political gain. But that's Warhammer for you.

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I've been working on the graphics and decided to show them out, so that you folks would have a general idea about how the units are going to look like.



Drawing heraldy on those knights is a absolute blast, I must say. I'm really glad that I decided to take up this project.

That bonus pic will eventually be a Grail Knight. Just decided to show out a work-in-progress to remind everyone about the magic of editing.
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Bravo Burnsaber! The detail in them is great and your heraldry work is topnotch. Are you making your own heraldry based on medieval examples or using Warhammer source material for the heraldry colors and shapes? Just curious
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Bravo Burnsaber! The detail in them is great and your heraldry work is topnotch. Are you making your own heraldry based on medieval examples or using Warhammer source material for the heraldry colors and shapes? Just curious
Well, I have this page on my favourites now. That should anwser a lot questions.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=cat1300218&pIndex=4&aId=2100023&start=5

But I'm basically making the heraldy up as I go. I really can't do elaborate stuff due to constraints of pixel art, so sticking to some arbitary rules would just hinder my progress. I'm trying to give each progression of a knight (Errant -> Realm -> Questing -> Grail) a different color scheme and different heraldy thought.
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Suggest as a small balancing tool

Have two of bretonia's multi heros be morgana le fay.. and whatever the pretenders name was.

Morgana would have some use as a (blood magic?) caster, the pretender would merely be a thug.

However, both would cause serious unrest (and bad events) in the province in which they were....
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Envy envv envy.. sooo many talented people = )
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All the sprites look really great, apart from the Damsel, whose face I just can't make out.
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