Some thoughts on EA Pangaea with CBM - Page 2

Executor · #1 August 25th, 2009, 10:05 AM

I'm pretty sure that dormant pretenders wake after 1 full year and sleeping between 2-3years, but I might be wrong.

Jarkko · #2 August 25th, 2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Executor

I'm pretty sure that dormant pretenders wake after 1 full year and sleeping between 2-3years, but I might be wrong.

Dormant pretenders wake up at turn 10-13. Imprisoned are released on turns 28-42.

vfb · #3 August 25th, 2009, 05:47 PM

It's level 4: 40+60+100+160=360 research, not 100.

chrispedersen · #4 August 25th, 2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vfb

It's level 4: 40+60+100+160=360 research, not 100.

Really? I just looked it up on Snoddermans... Thistle mace is Con 2 in vanilla..

vfb · #5 August 25th, 2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vfb

It's level 4: 40+60+100+160=360 research, not 100.

Really? I just looked it up on Snoddermans... Thistle mace is Con 2 in vanilla..

I'm not sure what Snoddermans is, but if it says a Thistle Mace is Con 2 in vanilla, it's wrong.

Lingchih · #6 August 26th, 2009, 02:51 AM

Pans get pretty expensive after a few. I usually get one for each fort, to build up maenads. I have had the experience of recruiting too many Pans, and they wreck your economy.

Jarkko · #7 August 26th, 2009, 03:50 AM

I was asked why I think Pans are so great in end game.

Assuming you have access to at least one astral mage (lizard shaman, sorceress), give him/her a bow and script Communion Master, Power of the Spheres plus other buffs depending on opposition (like personal luck, increased magic resistance, twist fate, astral geysir etc) and Fire large monsters.

One Pan (again with some bow) scripts Sabbath Master, Summon Earthpower, Strength of Gaia (or whatever the spell is called again, the one that gives N+1 and personal regen), Hell Power, Relief, Fire large monster.

The other pans (I prefer to use four) must be able to cast their spells before either of the masters. Script Sabbath Slave and what ever is needed (for example vs SC's you want them to be slowed down -> the meager Tangle Vines is a killer when cast with very high N). Notice that on round 4 the slaves will have already +4 to Nature (and +2 to Earth), so Charm is a killer vs those SC's. If you have Thistle mace and Moonvine bracelet, the slave Pans will have N10 or 11 on round 4, and there are not many SC's that will be able to resist repeadetly a Charm cast with such Nature levels.

Basically you should have a few such "hit-squads", stealing the enemy SC's for yourself. Who needs Tartarian gates when you can grab all the tartarians you want for yourself?

Lingchih · #8 August 27th, 2009, 02:34 AM

A nice plan, Jarkko, but extremely hard to implement. Mistakes could be made at any point, especially in the mage casting order.

Jarkko · #9 August 27th, 2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lingchih

A nice plan, Jarkko, but extremely hard to implement. Mistakes could be made at any point, especially in the mage casting order.

True that. It takes a lot of effort to get the right astral mage go together with the right Pans for example, so that the communion master does not cast his spells before the sabbath slaves. Besides, the astral mages have so low HP they are easy to kill (at least compared with the Pans).

The best result I've ever succeeded to have was in a MP game where I succeeded to snatch formyself an Earth king, King of Banefires and an Airqueen all in the same turn. So if the stars align right, the possibilities are spectacular

statttis · #10 August 27th, 2009, 04:49 AM

At N11 you're getting a +4 penetration bonus. Seems like it would be easier to just pass out some Void Eyes to your pans than mess with communions. After your pans buff with Strength of Gaia you end up with the same penetration bonus.