LARG - LA Rich Game (Started)

[veto]

May we join?
DonPablo as Bogarus
And me with Ermor

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by Torin

You actually fought against Rlieh?
Its rather tiresome and rewardless. Astral mages. Endless chaff. Water dwelling. They can raid your lands. But it gets hard to progress underwater.

Endless chaffe, but not endless mages, since their cash is so constrained. And they have a really hard time expanding. Oh yeah, and you have to pay upkeep on all that chaffe too, much of which is totally useless. So not only does their income keep shrinking because of their dominion, the growing chaffe armies keep eating more and more of what cash you do get. By year 3 you'll find it hard to have any cash free to actually buy anything.

They may be slightly annoying to kill, but they have little good offense. MA Rlyeh >> LA Rlyeh.

Basically, you may have fought against them, but it doesn't sound like you've actually tried to play them.

[13lackGu4rd]

I thought that free spawns act in the same way as summoned troops, as in no gold cost no upkeep. but even if you do have upkeep on all that free chaff, it just requires a terrible amount of micromanagement to keep moving it to the front lines and letting it do its job(die protecting the mind blasters). if you have early access to land(some nice indy province near you perhaps) than you might as well try to get onto land quickly and build a fort in there ASAP. in the water you have a chance to find kelp fortresses if you just search with a N1 Mage(such as a Slave Mage with random N) so you might as well build your first province on land instead of water, if you have nice access to land that is.

[Ignikharion]

If you let a noob MP in (I`ve played quite a lot in SP though) i would like to take LA Pangaea

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd

I thought that free spawns act in the same way as summoned troops, as in no gold cost no upkeep. but even if you do have upkeep on all that free chaff, it just requires a terrible amount of micromanagement to keep moving it to the front lines and letting it do its job(die protecting the mind blasters).

Some summons do have upkeep (ie, trolls). The determiner is whether the unit has a listed gold cost greater than zero or not. Units with a 0 gold cost have no upkeep, which describes most summons.

Rlyeh freespawn most definitely costs upkeep, though.

if you have early access to land(some nice indy province near you perhaps) than you might as well try to get onto land quickly and build a fort in there ASAP. in the water you have a chance to find kelp fortresses if you just search with a N1 Mage(such as a Slave Mage with random N) so you might as well build your first province on land instead of water, if you have nice access to land that is.

You'd have to make a point of taking an SC pretender capable of doing so to expand onto land early, because LA R expansion just sucks. And then you have to hope whatever land neighbors you pick up don't just decide to push you back into the sea.

Of course, those slave mages go insane from your dominion, and they're gold spent and upkeep payed on mages who aren't starspawn. So while they can potentially net you a free fortress with a 1/4 N pick, they aren't worth spending the money on. If it was a guaranteed N1 it'd be a different story, but 25% chance at a mildly useful mage, with the other 75% being almost totally useless since your starspawns are much better (and immune to insanity from your dominion).

[Zeldor]

Starspawns are not immune to insanity.

[fungalreason]

I'd like to give LA Atlantis a try.

[13lackGu4rd]

Starspawns are also a lot more expensive, and in the early game R'lyeh needs all the gold it can get its hands on to bump up their expansion army, cause as you said, their expansion capabilities aren't that great without enough Mind Blasters and chaff. as for your SC pretender, the Wyrm is cheap enough and amphibious... dom9/10 even with no magic at all, gives you plenty of expansion power for both land and sea. and R'lyeh doesn't really need a pretender to fill in some gaps, as the Starspawns are versatile enough and with plenty of the almighty Astral magic.

[Sir_Dr_D]

Originally Posted by Ignikharion

If you let a noob MP in (I`ve played quite a lot in SP though) i would like to take LA Pangaea

Newbies are welcome. Just remember the following:
- Make sure you are committed to the game. Check out Baalz's good player pledge.
- To be competive it is important to make sure that you have a strong expansion strategy. This takes some practice.
- Diplomancy is important and people do use this forum to send messages. So make sure yor check your private messages, and this thread, regularily.

[Graeme Dice]

I think I have time to start up a new game. How about I join as Agartha.