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Vine ogres make good walls. They're really gem efficient too with an ivy crown.
Yes, but I was asking for other type of units, one that really looks like a green or black tree of some kind with tons of HP, last time I saw it it was Pythium using it in LA aganist my Utgard giants as a defensive wall, cant quite recall the name...
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Kydnides. 15 for 10 in CBM. Very hard to kill with awe.
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Dark vines. They're a blood+nature summon.
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Dark vines. They're a blood+nature summon.
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Vine ogres are a much cheaper, easier to mass meat shield (or wood shield, in this case), than Dark Vines.
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Except that the ogres have abysmal MR (5). You also might want to look into crossbreeding if you don't mind losing the units. If you want something that doesn't break easily, try crushers and lumber constructs, they are not too cheap though.
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Summon Animals?

Or drakes with dragon master.
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Summon animals gets you, well, animals. Which are low hp and not all that useful.

Drakes are kind of a joke among experienced players. But I've used them, and they do serve their purpose. Fire drakes are probably the best, but Cave drakes are tough, and do not usually rout.
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Summon animals gets you, well, animals. Which are low hp and not all that useful.

Drakes are kind of a joke among experienced players. But I've used them, and they do serve their purpose. Fire drakes are probably the best, but Cave drakes are tough, and do not usually rout.
just wondering why you say drakes are a joke. with dragon master they're very cost efficient, but well you'll need the proper mages, so not as easily accessible for some nations. still, they're very cheap and good at what they do, being meat shields and having a decent artillery power(fire+ice drakes only) oh and the wyrms(also affected by dragon master) can fly, so they're great bodyguards for flying thugs...

as for the OP, what to summon greatly depends on your nation's magic access, and well luck in site searching too... there are plenty of viable summons to amass, from said drakes to snakes, lions(4 types, 1 for each season), trolls(land and sea), vine men+ogres, manifest vitriols(the new lion on alteration instead of the standard conjuration), etc. oh and there are the blood and undead summons too if you have access to them... so yeah, plenty of options, very nation dependent...
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i like the summon snakes spell for meat shield. size 4 and decent hp and mr 12 makes them good magic decoys to protect high gold units like knights. spells will tend to target the snakes more than your knights. being poison resistant and having a decent morale is a bonus. use the snakes as magic decoys and shield infantry to decoy arrows.
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