Blessing Question

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by thejeff

It may have that effect, but it's stupid. Not necessarily from a mechanics/balance point of view, but from a "realism"/suspension of disbelief one.

Giving a powerful creature bodyguards to make it easier to beat doesn't match expectations from the real world or even from fantasy sources. Just this games mechanical quirks.

Hhhmmm, I'm not sure I agree with that. Powerful beings would surely attract minnions of much weaker power. Whether or not they wanted to attact them is another matter but it would surely be a possiblity with regards 'realism'.

Do all the pop/films stars etc want all the crazy obsessed fans that follow them everywhere. Some do, some don't I'd guess, but one thing for certain is they can't do anything about it. So maybe powerful beings in Dominions can't do anything about the crappy chaff that follows them everywhere. As that's the price they have to pay for being big and powerful, and famous in the eyes of the people of that nation.

Since thematically, surely some feeble or weak, citizans or creatures, of Niefelheim's empire would be attracted to the might and fame of an uber Jarl, and follow him everywhere he went. Flies and **** etc etc.

[Executor]

Originally Posted by Calahan

Hhhmmm, I'm not sure I agree with that. Powerful beings would surely attract minnions of much weaker power.

And thus it is proven, see how Calahan is drawn to this thread when a powerful being such as myself posts something?

[thejeff]

Sure, maybe they attract chaff. I have no problem with that.
But using that to weaken them seems wrong to me. It'll just work to frustrate and annoy players.

Witness the eternal kvetching about Golems dying at the autorout, even though they could have easily won. Limiting SCs like this will more common and more broken.

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by thejeff

...But using that to weaken them seems wrong to me. It'll just work to frustrate and annoy players.

Fair point, players will certainly get annoyed by routing SC's when they haven't even been injured. Like with many things I guess, it all depends what the aim is. If it's to stop solo SC use, then it might work quite nicely, and force player to use them as support for armies only. Of course some players might just refuse to alter their play-styles, and end up being frustrated game after game. So it'd be a bad change for the stubborn players.

Not that this thread has anything to do with SC stuff So apologies to the OP for the O/T hijacking. Carry on.

[thejeff]

I've never seen this, but I've heard of it before. You may well be right about 100 Prec.

Very different from the standard Blessing missing though. That happens at short range, only with other units around and is definitely the result of the AoE, not actually missing the target.

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by thejeff

Very different from the standard Blessing missing though. That happens at short range, only with other units around and is definitely the result of the AoE, not actually missing the target.

True. Used to be cause of death nr 1 for Niefel giants in my SP games.

And there is very little you can do about it. Apart from getting indy priests of hold and attack orders, or using less blessable troops. A priest will not try to bless troops that cannot be blessed.

[Kadelake]

I've repeatedly had priests not only trying to bless non-sacred troops, they even tried to bless enemy non-sacred troops. That one reason flyers are great against self-blessing thugs/SC

[thejeff]

If I'm right, they would only do that because there were nearby friendly sacred troops.