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April 30th, 2017, 09:09 PM
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Re: Load all?
Got a year ?? I'll look into it
AND a specific formation. I just bought a Motor Inf coy in Grizzly's because they only hold 8 like the LAV April 2000 with the .50 and the Eryx and they all load and that's using autodeploy not manual loading so I really need exact dates and formations to deal with this ( and they load better than most.....8 for 8 in every carrier )
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May 1st, 2017, 12:47 AM
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Re: Load all?
Sorry was not in front of computer 332, 335
Mech Inf Coy D/W & Motor Inf Company D/W
There are also plus versions.
Only issue really is cant select MG sections 119, 124 if use lower load capacity vehicles
As said don't see as a problem its just giving exactly the same selection choices as the Infantry Com D/W does.
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May 1st, 2017, 07:49 AM
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Re: Load all?
I will look into this
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May 1st, 2017, 09:07 AM
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Re: Load all?
OK.... I see where the problem is and when for both the mech and mot formations now and am working on a fix but I have to re-research all the carry caps for those vehicles first
And there are no plus versions...there are DW and DW- for those..... the only DW+ formation is Para Co DW+
I did discover that we had some of the AVGP's past the time they were decommissioned that was missed so that's fixed too
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May 1st, 2017, 09:19 AM
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Re: Load all?
The "problem" stems from one simple error made probably a decade ago...... the single MG teams should have been set up a UC 254 after they were copied and reduced from 2 guns to one from UC 4 so we had two gun sections mixed in with single gun teams but it's looking like the correct type was assigned as the placeholder and so far that seems to fix the problem but testing continues................ Hmmmmm not quite yet plus another issues cropped up....always a challenge..........
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May 1st, 2017, 02:37 PM
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Re: Load all?
Here's an example of the kind of thing we have to consider and adapt to the game
This conflicting bit of information came from the SAME article
http://defense-update.com/20101231_metis_m.html
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"Metis is operated by a crew of two, one carrying the launcher and ready missile and the other crew member carrying two spare missiles"
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The Metis M1 ATGW element is operating in teams of three personnel. The shooter is carrying one missile contained in canister/launchers, command and launch unit and thermal sight – a system weighing about 30 kg. The other two crew members carry two missiles each , at a weight of 13.8 kg per missile."
The Metis and the Eryx weigh about the same so " team " sizes aside.. a two man team could have 3 missiles and a three man team 5
I have "solved" one issue with the CDN DW formations not loading by reducing the size of the Eryx team to 2 men ( along with the change the single MG sections when they were built..... I ASSUME that had been intended and it was overlooked because now when viewed in MOBHack the separation of the 2 and single MG units make perfect sense and the team now has 3 missiles instead of 4
As far as I can tell that " solves " the CDN formation loading issues now I need feedback on the original report
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May 1st, 2017, 03:45 PM
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Re: Load all?
Well at first I remembered "original case" that I played as US vs Russia 1980 and tried to re-make similar case (with mech inf of couse) but everything was ok (all units were in APCs as they should). Same thing with USMC (I checked it too). So, my memory must been failed what comes to my 1st message ... Sorry about it. I will tell if I meet same "problem" (whatever OOB/nation is)once again ok?
Warhero
PS. One thing came to my mind:could it be possible to get all "air strikes" and "bombers" and "attack helos" etc. flyable things listed into first lines of OOB under each other without anything else (rest could be listed after them)? Now they are bit "messed" here and there (sometimes bit difficult to find)...
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May 1st, 2017, 07:16 PM
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Re: Load all?
AGAIN......what nation, what year. I just checked the entire top row of nations and strike element is the FIRST listed in all of them and in the US it's Strike, COIN , SEAD then attack Helos......what more could you possibly want ?
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May 1st, 2017, 09:51 PM
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Re: Load all?
It's pretty easy to find stuff in the OOBs if you use the "Database Check Utilities" and do "Unit Checks" by Class.
Then you can right click on the unit you want in the right section of the results screen and it'll take you right to that unit in the OOB.
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May 2nd, 2017, 03:32 AM
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Re: Load all?
Ok lets check US OOB 2017 air/helo slots under Misc:
line 10 Strike Element
line 19 Bombers
line 34 Attack Helo
etc.
etc.
I don't mean that those can't be found but it could be just nice/clearer/easier to find air/helo units if they are listed below each other. Rest of
units (for example tank transport, hovercraft) I use seldom.
How about this:
line 1:Air Strikes
line 2:Bombers
line 3:Attack Helo
etc.
Rest of units below those?
Warhero
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