Best unmodded non-TDM AI's - Page 2

Alpha Kodiak · #11 May 13th, 2003, 01:14 AM

I fear that all of my AI's could stand some rework. They are a bit dated, and mostly not really optimized for all of the capabilities that the later Versions of Gold give. Now, if I could just get some time to work on them....

Krsqk · #12 May 13th, 2003, 02:38 AM

/me donates 15 minutes of spare time to Alpha Kodiak

Now if everyone would just do that.

cybersol · #13 May 13th, 2003, 02:58 AM

You have a lot of AI's, Alpha Kodiak! Of your AI's, which do you think pose the most challenge in their current form? The Namovans are the toughest and then? Which ones just need a few minor tweeks and updates here and there?

I find all the work you guys have put into this fascinating.

I'd gladly donate 15 minutes to all of you (if only it worked that way!)

[ May 13, 2003, 02:06: Message edited by: cybersol ]

Atraikius · #14 May 13th, 2003, 02:00 PM

The Mirak are about on par with the Chaos. Some one had asked about AI's the use drones, the Mirak research drones early and use them fairly heavily (the UCE also use them a lot). If they get going, they get some interesting fleets with heavy use of drones, carriers, and CSM-V's - can really swamp P-D.

cybersol · #15 May 14th, 2003, 05:39 AM

Well, I don't know the best place to post this, so I will start here.

Atriakius/Trooper - I downloaded the Chaos Legions from troopers excellent site. Today I noticed it had the default strategy type error that is generated by the .emp files being older than the AI_Strategies file. So I re-generated the 2,3, and 5k empire files. If anyone wants me to upload these corrected .emp files then let me know.

Mephisto - The Sallega 5K .emp file only uses 2k racial points. So I re-generated the 5k emp, only to notice in AI_General.txt that the sallega try to spend 6000 points and thus lose the temporal trait. I fixed the problem in my files by reducing maint from 115 to 110.

Then I also found two other races that don't use the correct # of racial point in AI_General. The Cryslonite use 750 extra points at both the 3k and 5k levels, so they end up losing the crystalline trait. The Abbidon have the opposite problem and just waste 500 points they could other use at the 5k level. Even though the Cryslonite and Abbidon are errors brought over from 1.84 Gold, I think TDM could easily fix them since the files are in the TDM directory already. I have fixed my Version of these if you would like copies, just ask.

If you can think of a specific place to post this, let me know.

Atraikius · #16 May 14th, 2003, 02:41 PM

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Atriakius/Trooper - I downloaded the Chaos Legions from troopers excellent site. Today I noticed it had the default strategy type error that is generated by the .emp files being older than the AI_Strategies file. So I re-generated the 2,3, and 5k empire files. If anyone wants me to upload these corrected .emp files then let me know.

Thanks - do you happen to remember what the error was? I've made a lot of changes to them since I first posted them; I haven't had any errors come up on me, but would like to make sure that I didn't miss something.

Mephisto · #17 May 14th, 2003, 02:45 PM

Cybersol, thanks for the info!
My problem is that they are not "my" races and I'm reluctant to change other Modders files. Further, if I change them and request files for the next release of the TDM I might get non-fixed files back from the Modder and include them in the pack accidentally. So I would really like to ask you to post the Modders personally about the problem and ask them to sent me their revised files. You could really do me a favour with this!

cybersol · #18 May 14th, 2003, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Atraikius:
Thanks - do you happen to remember what the error was? I've made a lot of changes to them since I first posted them; I haven't had any errors come up on me, but would like to make sure that I didn't miss something.

Upon adding the existing empire files manually and then switching to AI control once the game has started I got the invalid default strategy error in AI_DesignCreation for fighter attack, drone planet attack, and drone ship attack. I looked in AI_strategies and they were there so I knew it was just an old empire file. I then randomly added the chaos to games and saved the empire files out again. Now everything is good with the new empire files.

It was a similar situation to this problem with this problem with the Orks you mentioned Here.

Thanks for all you efforts. If you made a lot of changes, does that mean we will see new Versions soon?

cybersol · #19 May 14th, 2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by Mephisto:
Cybersol, thanks for the info!
My problem is that they are not "my" races and I'm reluctant to change other Modders files. Further, if I change them and request files for the next release of the TDM I might get non-fixed files back from the Modder and include them in the pack accidentally. So I would really like to ask you to post the Modders personally about the problem and ask them to sent me their revised files. You could really do me a favour with this!

For the Sallega, I will galdy try to get in touch directly with God Emperor about the errors there.

Yet, as far as I can tell the Abbidon and Cryslonite are stock SEIV Gold even in TDM 3.30. The files have the same save dates as the ones in SEIV Gold and these races are not mentioned at all in the TDM Readme or release notes. So I can't find anyone to contact about these except you (if I am wrong please give me the names to contact). I could also maybe contact Aaron since the errors are in stock SEIV as well, but it would be easier and MUCH faster to just mod the corrections in TDM I think. I can give you more details, send you the files, take responsibility, whatever you need to fix these two races.

Mephisto · #20 May 14th, 2003, 08:37 PM

Good point, Cybersol.

Please sent me the correct stock files and I will include them in a future release. You find my EMail in the readme, I don't want to post it in the forum (SPAM).