Happy New Year, New Game, New Players (Finished: Dojango/Mictlan Wins!)

[dojango]

Originally Posted by Immaculate

Claws of Kokytos > 3 grendelkin.

Yeah- so... everyone share their pretender builds.

Mine was a rainbow druid that i empowered in blood. I don't know if you all knew this or not but i had really strong research for most of the first 2/3 of the game.

Who took the ruby eye? Mictlan?

I was using the Mictlanese Stone Head with 9F4N4B. Scales were O3S3H3G1L3M1 Dom 8. In my test games, turmoil 3 wasn't nearly enough gold income to fuel the starting expansions, so I went order with a slightly weaker bless, figuring as long as income > attrition, it wouldn't matter.

But I want to emphasize a few things. One thing, really. I was amazingly, stupidly, unfairly lucky. Mictlan's three weak schools are air, death, and earth, and I found a death mage and an air mage site in Pangaea's territory, which was pretty nice, because they provided a heck of a research boost in addition to forging skull mentors to power up my research (I managed to surpass Helheim by the end) and forge spirit helms and bows of war for my dudes. I also found the crystal amazons, who provided some archery oomph. And of course who could forget the 3000g windfall late year 2 that let me build three forts at once?


Oh yeah, and before I forget, I had the 30% blood discount site near my capital.

[Immaculate]

I was just surprised to still be alive. I played a good part of the first part of the game with about 5-7 provinces. What i am really surprised about is that i actually won against Arcosephale- they didn't mind hunt a single time but if they had i would have lost.

[dojango]

Originally Posted by Immaculate

I was just surprised to still be alive. I played a good part of the first part of the game with about 5-7 provinces. What i am really surprised about is that i actually won against Arcosephale- they didn't mind hunt a single time but if they had i would have lost.

EA arco isn't great for mind hunts, need two boosters to make it possible on 1/4th of your mystics. But if we'd started scrapping, I would have made up for lost time. did you have any astral?

[Immaculate]

yes - by then i had astral. actually a fair bit. i had it for fighting neifelheim. That player was interesting. When i told him i was breaking our NAP he called me on but as soon as we went to war he decided he had had enough and went AI.

i knew this game was well and truly over when i saw your claws of kokytos take out the grendels. all i had was big tarts and devils- i had about 20-30 SCs, but thats ALL i had and... well... claws...

[dojango]

Originally Posted by Immaculate

yes - by then i had astral. actually a fair bit. i had it for fighting neifelheim. That player was interesting. When i told him i was breaking our NAP he called me on but as soon as we went to war he decided he had had enough and went AI.

i knew this game was well and truly over when i saw your claws of kokytos take out the grendels. all i had was big tarts and devils- i had about 20-30 SCs, but thats ALL i had and... well... claws...

yeah, blood is kinda OP in that regard, should at least hsve some sort of check on it even if it doesn't actually kill the SC. I am kind of curious to see what would have happened when I dropped 20 sirens into your cap and had them lure your researchers into the sea. Ah well.

[Excist]

Hmm. For guys like wendigos and tarts doesn't claws just send them away for a few turns to get exp in hell?

[dojango]

Originally Posted by Excist

Hmm. For guys like wendigos and tarts doesn't claws just send them away for a few turns to get exp in hell?

well, there are two spells, one sends them to the icy hells, the other to the fire hells. each turn you have a chance of being attacked by the denizens, and also a 10% of returning to the owner's territory. SCs that are not immune to ice/fire are likely to fatigue out and die in any combat, though.

[Immaculate]

good thing i had moved my researchers out of the cap

[Immaculate]

it would have devastated my crafters though.

[Immaculate]

as an aside, i think many of the high end blood summons come back from the hells with a higher chance per turn. they have a 'return from hell' tag in the wiki. Or something like that.