Casual EA for busy schedules (now underway)

[Mardagg]

i am the admin grudge

hosting extended by 24 hours,should be enough.

Since i am not regularly looking at this thread,its generally better to write me a personal message,which i get emailed,in case u want an urgent extension or something.

gg Grudgebringer.

[GrudgeBringer]

Thanks...See you in the next one!!

[Hoplosternum]

Bye Grudge! Didn't think I would outlast you in this one.

[GrudgeBringer]

Hang in there Hoplo, guess I didn't see it coming this time.

Guess I have to learn that lesson every so often!!

[13lackGu4rd]

back 1 day sooner than expected. got my turn in now, so we can go back to normal schedule

[13lackGu4rd]

been getting some weird things lately, the latest 1 being immortal vamp lords and vamps not respawning at my capital after death inside my own dominion. also had a few replay bugs in previous turns. anybody else received strange behaviors?

[Mardagg]

i watched the battle.
If you click on morale of one of your vamps you will quickly see,that it was not your dominion.
The thing to consider when battling with immortals is,that the turn order for this is important:

1. preaching happens

2. battles occur

3. dominion is spread by temples

so...if you have positive dominion in the turn you order to attack it might change due to preaching priests,renember that these can be stealthy!
Likewise...if you see you have positive dominion after the battle in the province,it might be because your dominion spread to a positive number just AFTER the battle.

[13lackGu4rd]

see, the thing is, I had positive dominion before and after the battle, so I don't see how stealth preaching or anything of that sort could change the dominion to neutral, but not long enough to last a single turn... the morale thing you saw is probably part of the bug I'm talking about...

[Mardagg]

see, i am encountering that in my other game all the time.
I am up vs a very strong dominion and using dozens of priests preaching.
I am always -10 dominion before battles and -10 after battles.
But my dozens inquisitor priests assure me positive dominion many a times for actual battles.


Say you have +2 dom when you order to attack.
Then preachers change it to -1 e.g.
Then the battle happens at -1.
Then your temples put your dominion back to say +3.

Thats the mechanic.
It doesnt matter what the dom was the turn before the battle.
The actually dominion after preaching only matters for battles and is not visible as such on the map since is altered every time by normal dom spreads.
That way,you never can be 100% certain when odering vamps to attack,unless you either got very high dominion before preaching or are sure enemy hasnt preaching in that province or bring lots of you your own preachers.

[13lackGu4rd]

well, I find it hard to believe that TNN(AI control) is actually stealth preaching over there. Ermor doesn't have national stealth preachers so that's also out of the question. that leaves you, and you don't have national stealth preachers either... so it's a nice theory but I still find it pretty hard to believe that this is actually the case here... but well, I guess it is possible that 1 of you is massively stealth preaching over there with stealthy indies or whatever, but still rather unlikely...