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				July 25th, 2005, 05:51 PM
			
			
			
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				July 25th, 2005, 07:54 PM
			
			
			
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 The file is coming out of my newlords directory: countryname.2h.  It is 4 kb when I send it.  i've played in pbem games before, so I'm not quite sure what's up.  Suggestions?  Of course, I could just send the specks for it to zooko if you think that would work. |  
	
		
	
	
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				July 25th, 2005, 08:56 PM
			
			
			
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 What's the size when you look at it in the newlords directory itself, the file itself before you send it?  If it's over 1K (that's what Windoze shows it as - they're really 200-400 bytes) there's probably something wrong with it, verifiable by starting a new game with that nation.
 Try to make sure your email program (which is what, by the way?  So people can give better advice.) is getting it as an attachment, and using Mime encoding  and not, mmm, UUEncode or somesuch (Mac's and a few other machines used a variant encoding for mail / Usenet that couldn't easily be handled on Intel machines).  And as someone pointed out, if you make a zip file containing the pretender and mail the zip file, that might work better.
 
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 Hi All:
 Ok.  I now have pretenders for everyone, including King Lear.  Whew!
 
 Now... the problem is that 3 pretender STILL don't have passwords, even after being resubmitted.  Isn't that goofy?  What's up with that?  Ugh!  Why is this particular game cursed with these particular difficulties?
 
 Lack of passwords could prove problematic if the game is ever on a server.
 
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				July 25th, 2005, 10:58 PM
			
			
			
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 Nevermind.  Only 1 pretender is still without a password.  I have sent an email to the player in question.  Then, I do believe we will be able to get this game going! |  
	
		
	
	
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				July 25th, 2005, 11:04 PM
			
			
			
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 I think all games are plagued with problems like people not putting passwords on the pretenders, it's just that this game you're checking on the passwords.  That, and with 17 players, there's that many more people to do something wrong compared to a game with 6-10.
 
 As I said - it'd be nice if you could set or change a password after pretender creation (so that if I'm using "password" for my password, but have to tell someone who's going to sub for me, I can change all the others).  Or if it prompted you for a password when saving, just to remind people, who could still leave it without a password.
 
 (Oh, and if you could change the password, then you could change just the one you're having someone substitute in, and not have to change all the others.)
 
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 Almost there... just 1 more day (at the most, I hope). |  
	
		
	
	
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 Cainhill - You are dead right on. I have done or seen pretty much everything you said in your post. |  
	
		
	
	
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 You were rite panther, zipping it took care of the file problem.  Good call |  
	
		
	
	
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 Ok.  The curse continues.  One player needed to send me a password'ed pretender file, but he sent me a file for the wrong nation (and I did not notice until too late and screwed up my backups).  So, now I need new pretenders from both players.  
 By the way, I leave for Chicago on Thursday - Saturday.  However, Alneyan has agreed to play substitute host while I am away.  I will make sure he knows all the necessary details and has the necessary files.
 
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