Sharivar - LA game 4 bussy ppl. Complete. Wraithlord wins.

[thejeff]

What just happened?

And what do we do now?

I'm off for the weekend (camping w/ no internet) but I'm new here and don't have much stake. Whatever you guys come up with is fine by me.

[WraithLord]

This is a most unexpected move

However, what's done is done and now that it's done I think we have two simple choices:
- Cont. playing
- given that the game is more than one year old - call off the game.

We're reduced to three active players so lets hear what you and Dimaz think before we decide how to move forward.

[WraithLord]

Got word from Dimaz. He votes for cont. the game.
I vote the same.

thejeff, I hope you're in the mood to follow this through

[WraithLord]

At player's request: Hosting postponed for Sharivar1 by 12 hours. The game will now host at 07:15 GMT on Thursday September 16th.

[Dimaz]

Wtf? I had no storm in one of the battles despite having Staff of Storm on one of the mages.

[WraithLord]

I still didn't see the turn. Care to explain what are you talking about?

[Dimaz]

I think I explained it clearly. I teleported 2 commanders on one of Pan's provs, one of them was wielding SoS. However, storm wasn't there when battle started, so he died horribly to harpies. The second one managed to capture the province anyway.

[WraithLord]

I wonder if there's something like this in the bug list. If not, it's worth reporting that.

[Dimaz]

Well, I tried to dig the issue some more, here's the log part regarding it:

item Staff of Storms casting autospell Storm (cr0)
Autospell is Storm
castspell: cnr744 spl288 (Storm) vis0 x6 y24 spldmg1
vis 0 xvis -1
blastsqr: unr17146 x6 y24 aoe0 dmg1 eff81 spc1073741824 as10247 al9
  affectvic vic17146 hv0
hitunit 17146 17146 dmg1 spec1073741824 ba2
Enchantment
*** Warning: out of ench
hitunit: out of ench
setupsquads end (check=241433822)

It tells us about some mysterious "out of ench", which most likely means there is some limit to simultaneous enchantments. However, as we both know Pan made a good job of capturing most of our scouts with his insane PD, so we both moved to using dozens of stone spheres to have scouting info. And, this scouting is actually considered as enchantment by dom3 engine (I think so because it gives anchntment icon during the battle in scouted province). So, most probably, if we continue to use the stone spheres as we do now, we can throw the game as it clearly makes no sense to fight against 10000 Ermorian armies without BF enchantments (of course absence of Rigor Mortis and Darkness is nice and all that, but still it makes no sense to me).

[WraithLord]

Interesting theory. How many astral window's were present in that battle?

Even if what you say is true. Does it make sense that one or two stone sphere would prevent BF ench?

Consider that I fought pan for a long time and he cast BF ench. all the time. Sometimes there were lot's of stone sphere watching (don't know why, but there they were anyhow).

Don't rush to conclusions that all BF ench. are now impossible due to stone spheres. esp. when there's evidence to the contrary. More likely you hit a corner case, one that needs further investigation.

Now to share my pain: in recent battle my mages absolutely refused to cast my scripted spells and instead blew their gems on stupid stuff. How come?- They had the levels (and beyond), plenty of gems, no fatigue and a serious 1k+ killer army facing them - so definitely a threat.