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				 Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender 
 Jotuns are not nearly as good at killing as Pangaea's druid. Have you seen him in action? Very impressive.
 on the subject of the smoking mirror, I think its to late to restart, and in all honesty I am not to bothered by it, though I imagine mictlan's neighbors are a little more troubled.
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				 Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender 
 Who you calling a Skratti? 
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				 Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender 
 New turn just went up.     
Oh, and a happy new years day to everyone.
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		| Ironhawk said: It has been brought to my attention that Mictlan is using an illegal pretender: The Smoking Mirror.  We agreed in the thread (on page 2-3 for me) that shape-changing pretenders were not acceptable because they were a little too tough and only available to a handful of nations.
 
 In retrospect, I realize that I did not officially post this decision in the top post of the thread.  So I can see how it could have been overlooked.  But still it does give Mict's pretender a slight advantage over others in the game.
 
 |  The rules said "1) All pretenders were once human servants of the Old Ones and therefore must be mortal humans (tho they can be mounted). " 
My pretender is a human mortal as specified by this rule. Of course I wasn't aware of the discussion saying otherwise. I think it's common that game rules are posted and updated in the first post.
 
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 ehh, it was a mutual error.  I don't mind; resignation is surely too drastic. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender 
 I figure if someone can have the Freak Lord, some shapeshifting guy shouldn't be that different. Don't resign! This is a fun game. I'm a neighbor and don't see any problem... |  
	
		
	
	
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Eh, Freak Lord is explicitly a human pretender, usually regarded as being in the "trash" category : 1 dominion (*), 10 point magic paths, HPs comparable to all the other humans.  Smoking Mirror : 20 point paths, 2 starting dominion, shapeshifting into a form that keeps all its magic but gets 41 base HPs, 2-3 times as many as all the other human pretenders.
 
That said, I don't see too much of a problem with it - not like when I ran into a Shedu in a supposed human-pretender only game.     
* : Base game, all the humans had dominions of 1; Conceptual Balance mod has tweaked that a bit over time, as the archmage at one point had 2, as does Pythium's Divine Emperor.
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 * : Base game, all the humans had dominions of 1; Conceptual Balance mod has tweaked that a bit over time, as the archmage at one point had 2, as does Pythium's Divine Emperor.
 
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				 Re: Mictlan\'s Pretender 
 btw ironhawk, did you like what I did with my artifact wardens? I figure a bow of accuracy makes them worthwhile.
 I'll sell bows of accuracy to anyone else who wants them, for 10 astral pearls and 50 gold or 5 air gems and 50 gold.
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