OT: why football is better than American football - Page 3

Thermodyne · #21 October 10th, 2003, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by oleg:
Moreover, football is an integral part of Humanity Heritage. Here is a test:
When I say 1982, France-Germany, surely there are dozens of old geezers ready to supply me with the details !

Now, name ANY US sport action 20 years old and see if anybody have any clue

Football doesn't even need to mention the year, just say Jet vs. Colts and super bowl.

Or show the picture of Riggins running over the Miami safety and ask what game it was.

TerranC · #22 October 10th, 2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Erax:
Football is The Game because it's universal. It's played all over the world. There are more nations filiated with FIFA than with the UN. Football has been used to unite peoples and prevent wars. It is played wherever there is open ground and a ball. No need for $100 worth of baseball equipment, football armor or hockey gear. It has become a universal language with no words, like chess or mathematics.

Needless to say, it is the world's most popular, most widely played sport by far. So I'm sorry to be the one to break the news, but you hockey, American football and baseball lovers are the weird ones.

Amen. Although I'm assuming you meant Ice hockey when you say hockey. Field hockey is quite popular around the world.

Edit: IMHO, I think Americans would get into soccer only if they were to ever win the World Cup.

[ October 09, 2003, 23:28: Message edited by: TerranC ]

oleg · #23 October 10th, 2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:
Well, money talks and bull doody walks. Show me a soccer team with an 80 million dollar payroll. Show me a soccer team that Forbes values at .98 Billion dollars. That $980,000,000.00 for you Brits. Show me any team other than Football that has sold out 85,000 seats through 2038.

So what ? You have one league with about 50 teams(sorry, don't remember exact number ) in 150M people market. In Europe, there are 30+ leagues with THOUSANDS of teams competing for about the same money. No wonder there is no such monopoly .

In fact, in 2-3 years superleague may emerge if top football clubs get their way with UEFA . I hope it will never happen. Football is a people game still.

If American-style sport businees prevail, we will see Barselona moving to Turin, because of the LOW tax break for a new stadium

Can you imagine this ? Just read Thermo' post again and get to grip that it is all about money folks, not about national pride or any such nonsense. Just pay, you suckers

Or we will move Dodgers back to NY

[ October 10, 2003, 00:24: Message edited by: oleg ]

geoschmo · #24 October 10th, 2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by oleg:
So what ? You have one league with about 50 teams(sorry, don't remember exact number ) in 150M people market. In Europe, there are 30+ leagues with THOUSANDS of teams competing for about the same money. No wonder there is no such monopoly .

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Just pay, you suckers Or we will move Dodgers back to NY

First of all the Dodgers are a baseball team.

Your point about the number of teams isn't really valid. The 30 Team NFL is just the top level of professional Football players. There is Arena Football and several smaller semi-pro leagues, many of which likely outdraw some Pro Soccer teams. Then there are several levels of College football. Some of the bigger schools there out draw NFL teams in attendance. And literally thousands of highschool and youth Football teams. That's even bigtime sport in some towns.

oleg · #25 October 10th, 2003, 01:55 AM

[quote]Originally posted by geoschmo:

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First of all the Dodgers are a baseball team.
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Oh, yes, I know

. Just coul't resist because of the Bob Doyle' lowest point

. Not sure about NFL equivalent though . Rams may be ? or houston oilers (notice the low case please

) -> Nashville Titans ? NHL is even worse IMHO. I lived 5 years in US. At first I tried to affiliate with some professional team but soon realized it is a crap and pure bull**** (if one exist of course). I stick with college teams since. They just don't jump around in a search of long buck and dumping loyal fans

Go Longhorns !!!

[ October 10, 2003, 01:21: Message edited by: oleg ]

General Woundwort · #26 October 10th, 2003, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by Erax:
Needless to say, it is the world's most popular, most widely played sport by far. So I'm sorry to be the one to break the news, but you hockey, American football and baseball lovers are the weird ones.

At least our fans only paint themselves and make loud noises at games. English soccer fans are world-renowned for being listed as WMD's.

oleg · #27 October 10th, 2003, 02:30 AM

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Originally posted by General Woundwort:

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Originally posted by Erax:
Needless to say, it is the world's most popular, most widely played sport by far. So I'm sorry to be the one to break the news, but you hockey, American football and baseball lovers are the weird ones.

At least our fans only paint themselves and make loud noises at games. English soccer fans are world-renowned for being listed as WMD's.

Hmm. I do vaguely remember some disturbances after Detroit Pistons game not far ago?

Anyway, football is a modern equivalent of war. American football is a ruse to present leggy cheer leaders to the prudish customers.

Lads, can you imagine such a sceanary at Anfield ?

They' never walk alone

Baron Grazic · #28 October 10th, 2003, 03:45 AM

Sorry after having watched both games of "Soccer" and "Gridiron" I would have to pass on both of them.
At a nil-all Soccer game, you are lucky if you see just one brawl while leaving the match, while the padded Gridiron players, appear to be more worried about getting hurt than playing the game.

Now Australian Rules Football and its cousin, Gailic Football, now they are sports.

I suppose I have to say how great the Rudby is too, since Australia is hosting the "Rugby World Cup" which starts later today.
Mind you I'm sick of their advertising - "Get your Rugby World Cup tickets now, and see a Once in a Life Time Event, that only happens every 4 years".

General Woundwort · #29 October 10th, 2003, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by oleg:
Hmm. I do vaguely remember some disturbances after Detroit Pistons game not far ago?

Possibly. But that's basketball. And even then, you don't see Pistons fans being rated as more deadly than the French Army.

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Anyway, football is a modern equivalent of war. American football is a ruse to present leggy cheer leaders to the prudish customers.

That's nothing. You should see what gets on the commericals during the games nowadays...

[ October 10, 2003, 10:30: Message edited by: General Woundwort ]

DavidG · #30 October 10th, 2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:
Well, money talks and bull doody walks. Show me a soccer team with an 80 million dollar payroll.

Which IMO is precissly the reason why I'm so turned off by professional sports in NA. Although never a football fan I used to be a big baseball fan. But when 99.99% of the players vote to go on strike with the wages they are making it really turns me off.

[ October 10, 2003, 11:43: Message edited by: DavidG ]