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		| Taqwus said: von_Schmidt --
 
 Yep.  The "Ancient Presence" event is nasty even if you win, too, since a rather large portion of the province's population is killed.
 
 Pan CW not only cranks out units with sleep vines, it even gets a darn fine SC chassis (an Ettin Mandragora -- numerous hp, three arm slots, other slots mostly normal except maybe -1 misc?, recuperation!) with something like 2 or 3 sleep vines.
 
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 Yeah the Ettin mandragora is really gorgeous .
He keeps his sleepvine attacks .
So with quickness that should be 3*3*2 sleep vine attacks / turn and of course up to 3 weapons *2 as well .
Furthermore he is LL , is Sacred and has Recuperation .
So if you plan ahead you can support him with a Dualbless . Then he really kicks *** and is probably even deadlier then an AQ or a Nataraja . The only thing that hurts a bit is that he has only 1 Misc slot like the nataraja .