Longdead Archery vs SC's/High Quality Summons - Page 3

OG_Gleep · #21 March 12th, 2006, 09:59 PM

Wouldnt' a banelord with a shield be punching?

NTJedi · #22 March 13th, 2006, 01:43 PM

Machaka is a good nation... except for province defense. Machaka is one of the few which will have their province defense lose to call of the winds.

shovah · #23 March 13th, 2006, 01:57 PM

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OG_Gleep said:
Wouldnt' a banelord with a shield be punching?

just give him a cheap weapon (even punching hed probably kill them

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PvK · #24 March 14th, 2006, 11:20 PM

I thought longdead attacks caused decay, which did affect undead and did not cause fatigue, no?

Saber Cherry · #25 March 14th, 2006, 11:39 PM

My recollection is that decay simply adds poison and fatigue to the commander every turn. Undead are immune to both, so decay won't affect them. Bane venom is described as causing a fast-acting disease, only undeads can safely carry Bane Venom Charms; Banes (the source of Bane Venom) are undead and the Lord of Banefires is undead, and neither of them are affected. So there are various precedents for Decay to only affect the living, and they agree with my memory of the mechanics.

Wick · #26 March 15th, 2006, 01:18 AM

Based on a small sample, being baned by an archer does 0 to 15 points of fatigue per round and, since the victims were themselves longdead archers, does effect undead. The effect is not poision.

Saber Cherry · #27 March 15th, 2006, 02:02 AM

I think there's poison too, but with 100% poison immunity for undead, it would never be added to the poison pool.

Wish · #28 March 15th, 2006, 02:05 AM

also, it seems at least some troops die at the end of combat when decay is cast on them. probably the undead.

Saber Cherry · #29 March 15th, 2006, 04:49 AM

Troops only die from decay at the end of combat if their regeneration can't keep up with it. It's the same way troops die from poison at the end of combat. A Wyrm that gets hit by decay, and is at 256 HP in friendly dominion, won't die at the end of combat.

Oversway · #30 March 15th, 2006, 12:19 PM

Decay/banefire seem to have the same effect (the banefire spell/shield/arrows also gives some initial damage). The troop gets a reddish glow and looses a small amount of hp per turn, but for the rest of the battle, even after they have won. It is possible for regenerating or really high hp unit to survive.

I have not seen any poison damage associated with decay or banefire. Undead are immune to both, though.