OT: VISTA

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I've switched from 98 to XP .. les than 2 years ago !
So let's wait a couple of years, we'll have a debugged Vista SP2, the DX10 hardware will be affordable and we'll have some software really using it

[Suicide Junkie]

Atrocities said:
I am sorry SJ, but isn't moving from ME to 98 a down grade? ME was released in 2000, 98 was released in well, 98.

Upgrade means improving something.
If the AI decided to retrofit your APB XIIs to MB Is, just because you had finally researched Energy Pulse Weapons, would YOU call that an upgrade?

[Ironmanbc]

I also went from 98se to Xp pro and I think it's great.

Some of my friends got the home Xp and are having trouble with it (oh well) I'm still running an 1.4g with 1g ram Ati 9200 video Soundblaster Live

It works well playing WoW

[Arralen]

frightlever said:
ReactOS? WinXP compatible OS? I personally wouldn't be any hurry to donate money to that project and I wouldn't be holding my breath for anything to ever get released either.

Acutally, they have released v0.3.0 quite some time ago, and it already works with some windows apps - e.g. Firefox can be used for WWW access.
What is a great accomplishment in itself. Coding an OS ain't easy for sure.

Interestingly enough, one of the core developers of ReactOS claims to have found a way to crack Vista's DRM ...
http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/84536

[Tim_Ward]

Atrocities said:
I am a mixed bag. First I don't think its going to be easy to upgrade, secondly I doubt my computer will run it, and its only 3 years old, and thirdly, I ain't going to pay $400.00 for a bit of software from a company that has a dubious history of releasing crap OS software onto the market, resulting in crashed PC's lost data, and headacks all the while telling people that they upgrade at their own risk.

How is that being "a mixed back", exactly? Maybe it's just me, but it seems like a rather firm "no".

[Atrocities]

Then NO it is.

[Kana]

Imperator Fyron said:
Kana said:
Yeah if I had to buy a custom made PC, that is where I would go, I've had some friend be very satisfied with what they recieved.

Wouldn't it still be cheaper to spend an hour putting the parts together yourself?

Actually no...I've priced a few 'custom' computers, even stuff from the big names like Dell, and HP. For the price, and the fact that most offer some form of warranty and support (how ever bad it is) above and beyond what even a manufacture gives you really can't beat. I mean if it comes to you, and it doesnt work, or something isn't right, or a lemon, you just return the PC, and you get a new one from them, its called customer service. If you yell loud enough and to the right people you usually will get what you want. If I order the parts, and somehow screw up something installing it, I have little or no recourse to replace said part or even the whole PC. Now it is cheaper, if you want to upgrade a single item like a video card or RAM down the road, yet some of the new machines are a real problem to break down far enough to install the components. Like my current PC will envolve me removing a large chunk of hardware so I can get to the RAM slots.

As for Vista...the only worring point, is that of playing new high end games that require Direct X 10, which is Vista only.

[Fyron]

If a part comes to you and it doesn't work, you can return it just the same. Unless you are buying parts from extremely shady dealers, you are usually ok to return them without even considering going to the manufacturer directly. Newegg.com, for example, has a 1 year replacement policy for many items. Some items only have a 30 day replacement policy, but that's surely enough time to see if anything you bought came broken.

It isn't difficult to buy a case that is easy to work with. You are more likely to get a cramped, crappy case from a whole PC vendor than when you have free reign to choose one yourself.

[PvK]

Vista isn't worth being bribed $1000 to use. It's EVIL.

[PvK]

Atrocities said:
I am sorry SJ, but isn't moving from ME to 98 a down grade? ME was released in 2000, 98 was released in well, 98.

No, because ME was released as a TRAP by M$, to get people to look at XP more positively by comparison. Win 98 is massively better than ME. I think Win 2K Pro (behind a Linux firewall) is currently the best version of Windohs, because it's stable, works, and doesn't have so much annoying crap like M$ authentication, and it wastes fewer system resources. The only negative feature I'm aware of is Remote Desktop isn't as good, but if you don't use that... I say upgrade to Win 2K Pro!

PvK