Massive fatigue spells

[Meglobob]

thejeff said:
If it had been a 400 fatigue/4 gem spell, he couldn't have cast it.

Yes, 100% agreed.

[Kristoffer O]

You are on track. Max nbr of gems are mage lvl. This includes casting cost and increase lvl cost.

thejeffs example is correct.

Furthermore:
A mage can only use one gem to empower himself during a casting. This is the only way for him to reduce fatigue. He will not use more gems then one to reduce fatigue, and fatigue is only reduced as a side effect of him being temporarily more powerful.

[thejeff]

So the most gems that can be spent is the lower of mage level and (gem cost of spell + 1)?

I was sure I'd seen cases of spending more, but maybe not...

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

Huh... so no reason to carry more than cost+1 gems per spell?

[llamabeast]

The manual is outright incorrect in that case I think.

[Kristoffer O]

Hmm, checking in the manual I conclude that it might be misleading, the key phrasing being 'two purposes'. The gem spent actually works towards both purposes. It is not a choice between the two (unless JK has done something I'm not aware of).

A bit later: 'can be used both to..., or ...', should be: 'will be used to ..., and ...'.

[Velusion]

Kristoffer O said:
You are on track. Max nbr of gems are mage lvl. This includes casting cost and increase lvl cost.

thejeffs example is correct.

Furthermore:
A mage can only use one gem to empower himself during a casting. This is the only way for him to reduce fatigue. He will not use more gems then one to reduce fatigue, and fatigue is only reduced as a side effect of him being temporarily more powerful.

So if you can only use 1 more gems than your level.... where would the max number of gems per mage level come into play?

This thread only succeeded in confusing me.

[Kristoffer O]

You can NOT use more gems than your lvl. Not ever.

You can cast a spell of one lvl higher if you have a gem with you, unless the spell cast demands that you use as many gems as the spell's lvl.

[Wyatt Hebert]

Velusion: This is how I understand it. I have a level 5 mage. He can use up to 5 gems. Spells I want to cast:

Thunderbolt AAA, 75 fatigue (iirc). He will take 25 fatigue+Enc with no gems. Give him 5 gems. He will, most likely, spend 1 gem, making him A6, meaning he takes 12 Fatigue. In this case, he _cannot_ use any more gems. He cannot empower, nor does the spell cost gems.

Now, let's assume there was an A4 spell that cost 2 gems and 200 fatigue. FOr the following gem counts, this is what can happen:

0: Nothing. Not enough gems for spell.
1: Nothing. Not enough gems for spell.
2: Spell cast. Gain 100+Enc Fatigue (200/(5-4+1))
3: Spell Cast with extra gem for empowering. Gain 67+Enc Fatigue.
4: Spell cast, as 3 above, as empowerment limit and spell cost limit have been reached.
5: Spell Cast, as 4 above.

Is this correct, KO?

Wyatt Hebert

[Kristoffer O]

Seems correct.