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June 5th, 2009, 07:33 PM
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Re: Summons
Blood summons are awesome, generally. Demon Lords, Heliophagi, Frost Devils, Fire Devils, Father Illearth: all great SC chassis and magic diversification. Some of the better non-unique summons: Demon Knights, Storm Demons (if they don't have shock immunity), vampires, and Dark Vines (haven't used them much). I honestly can't say for Devils, Ice Fiends, and Fiends of Darkness (never used any of them much. Infernal Crusade is just too good to pass up). Bone Fiends are alright.
You could also come up with a strategy with the Succubus. Seducing enemy mages can make for getting into new magics.
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June 5th, 2009, 07:53 PM
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General
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Re: Summons
I do think the SC Chassis are all uniques. At least for the general blood summons. Some of the blood nations have very nice national blood summons. I'm looking at you Mictlan and Lanka.
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June 5th, 2009, 07:54 PM
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Re: Summons
Indeed they do. Generally speaking, assuming you aren't playing a blood nation: those are the top choices.
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June 5th, 2009, 08:43 PM
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Re: Summons
You get a non-unique Devil commander out of Horde from Hell. It's pretty pricey at 44 slaves, but his stats aren't totally terrible.
Succubi are non-unique, but lack a body slot. Not that they don't have a body, it's just well, wearing armor would be such a waste, right? At 66 slaves, no magic paths, and pretty weak combat stats, it's something you're unlikely to summon for anything except seduction/assassination.
Outside blood, one guy that hasn't been mentioned yet is the lowly Black Servant. At 5D in CBM, he's got 0-enc and is ethereal and stealthy. So you can slap some cheap armor on him and a snake bladder stick or frost brand or a horror helm, and he's a pretty good raider against many nations.
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June 5th, 2009, 09:17 PM
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Major General
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Re: Summons
I like Ice devils, really nasty bastards in cold dominion, way better than arch devils!
As for national thugs/SC, Mictlans chivateto ( or something like that) is the best.
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June 5th, 2009, 09:34 PM
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Sergeant
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Re: Summons
Black servant is also good without a weapon because his natural attack is life drain. Black servant with a vine shield works well.
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June 6th, 2009, 02:18 AM
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Re: Summons
Ice devils suck. I won't use one again.
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June 6th, 2009, 02:27 AM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: Summons
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lingchih
Ice devils suck. I won't use one again.
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June 6th, 2009, 03:19 AM
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Major
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Re: Summons
Mostly just being close in price and research to the much-superior arch devils. Suck is a bit strong, but they're certainly fairly lackluster.
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June 6th, 2009, 03:22 AM
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Re: Summons
I like leviathans a lot, and CBM behemoths.
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