Guide: Does starting or current Max dominion determine temple checks?

[vfb]

Testing with dom 9, sacrificing 1 slave, dominion candle count in island:

Turn 3 hosted: 2
Turn 4 hosted: 4
Turn 5 hosted: 6
Turn 6 hosted: 8
Turn 7 hosted: 9 (+1 only)
Turn 8 hosted: 11
Turn 9 hosted: 13
Turn 10 hosted: 15

Testing with dom 5, sacrificing 1 slave, dominion candle count in island:


Turn 3 hosted: 1
Turn 4 hosted: 3
Turn 5 hosted: 5 (4,1)
Turn 6 hosted: 7 (5,2)
Turn 7 hosted: 8 (5,3)
Turn 8 hosted: 10 (max)

I'll have to edit my map so I can test Mictlan sacrificing onto a 4-province island. The dominion fills up too fast to get even rough stats for a good test of dom10 versus dom5+25 temples.

In the meantime, any thoughts on the double temple check from sacrificing one slave with a base dominion of 10? I tested again in an ordinary SP game, no CB, no island isolation (just distance), and I see two temple checks per slave. Huh.

[Micah]

Hmm, I wonder if the double checks are mictlan specific or not...

[Dragar]

No wonder blood sacrifice is so effective! double the temple checks!!

[chrispedersen]

Vfb, I have always found that all the priest needs is *1* slave, regardless of H?.

Then so long as you give the blood sacrifice order, the appropriate numbmer of slaves decrement from treasury.

I'm gathering I'm wrong on that.

Is there anychance that blood sacrificing allows both the the temple check AND the sacrifice?

[vfb]

I'm beginning to doubt my sanity here.

I decided to test Sauromatia, and created a dormant dom-10 god. Since there was going to be extra spread from the temple anyway (can't sacrifice without one), I didn't bother with the "dominion island" map.

I did not create a prophet on the first turn (or any of the later turns). But when I hosted, I had 4 candles.

Turn 0: 1 candle (start)
Turn 1: 1 + (home province spread) + (temple spread) = 4?
Turn 2: 4 + 3 = 7

When I click on the temple icon I see:
God 0
Prophet 0
Home Provinces 10
Temples 10

I didn't even start sacrificing yet.

Turn 3: 7 + 3 = 10

Add in an H1 priest sacrificing:

Turn 4: 10 + 5 = 15
Turn 4: 15 + 5 = 20

From this I am guessing:
- Home provinces generate 2 temple checks, not 1.
- Every blood slave sacrificed generates 2 temple checks.

Trying with 2 temples and dom10:
Turn 1: 4
turn 2: 7
Turn 3: 11
Turn 4: 15
Turn 5: 19

And sacrifice for a couple turns at one temple:
Turn 6: 25 =19+2(temple)+2(1slave)+2(home prov)
Turn 7: 31

One slave sacrificed is 2 temple checks. (vanilla WNH warrior sorc sacrificing)
Home province generates 2 temple checks.
One temple generates one temple check (except EA & LA Mictlan).

[vfb]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

Vfb, I have always found that all the priest needs is *1* slave, regardless of H?.

Then so long as you give the blood sacrifice order, the appropriate numbmer of slaves decrement from treasury.

I'm gathering I'm wrong on that.

Is there anychance that blood sacrificing allows both the the temple check AND the sacrifice?

You only get as many slave temple checks out of the sacrifice as double the number of slaves your sacrificer is sacrificing. So if you have an H4 with a jade knife and give them one slave, that's just two temple checks. Sure, they'll grab 6 slaves out of the dungeon for the next turn, and if you don't pull them off, you'll get 12 temple checks for that next sacrifice.

A blood sacrifice at a temple gives both a temple check for the temple and 2 temple checks for each slave sacrificed, unless you are EA or LA Mictlan, in which case you just get 2 temple checks for each slave sacrificed.

[vfb]

I tested Mictlan sacrificing for 20 turns with a dom-5 god, 25 temples, 1 slave per turn. Total dominion: 23.

I tested Mictlan sacrificing for 20 turns with a dom-10 god, 25 temples, 1 slave per turn. Total dominion: 41.

I tested Mictlan sacrificing for 20 turns with a dom-10 god, 1 temple, 1 slave per turn. Total dominion: 41.

Dom spread by blood sacrifice is by start dominion, not adjusted for number of temples.

[P3D]

It might be that Mictlan temples do not spread dominion normally, but they have dom spread when there's sacrifice there - or the first slave sacrificed each turn counts double. Need test with H3/H4.

[vfb]

I already tested with H4+jade knife=effective H6, as I wrote in my reply to Chris above. 6 slaves sacrificed with a dom10 god = +12 candles. I tested with Sauromatia and it was exactly like Mictlan as far as temple checks per sacrifice went.

EA/LA Mictlan temples do not spread dominion at all.

[Micah]

Ah, good call on the home province thing, in Arti I ended up with a mystery candle on turn 2, that explains it. Thanks again for the work VFB!