Reverse Communion Confusion

[thejeff]

But they shouldn't cast holy spells, if they act after a Master. They shouldn't do anything.
That's what I don't understand about this.

Unless.... I have a vague memory about weirdness with priests and quickness. You didn't have a W9 bless did you?

[Stagger Lee]

Originally Posted by thejeff

But they shouldn't cast holy spells, if they act after a Master. They shouldn't do anything.
That's what I don't understand about this.

Unless.... I have a vague memory about weirdness with priests and quickness. You didn't have a W9 bless did you?

In my first tests, I didn't have them casting flying shards on round two, blade wind instead. Since many of them were not capable, they threw out all sorts of holy spells and other low fatigue stuff.

[thejeff]

Stagger Lee: Yes. Your example works the way I understand it. And you are correct that slaves only get the communion bonus for fatigue from the master's spells, not their own.

But that doesn't match Adam's report, that the slaves never cast Bladewind, but did cast holy spells instead.

[thejeff]

The original intent of Communion was to boost the masters and not have the slaves cast at all. No reverse communions. That they work is essentially a bug. It's a bit of unintended weirdness that has become part of the game.


If you catch them doing that again, save the turn. Maybe someone can make something of it if they can duplicate/experiment with it.

[thejeff]

That's what I was thinking of, though I'm not sure it's that simple.

I believe 2 item spells a turn works reliably. I'm much less sure about the 2 holy spells.

[Fantomen]

Not entirely on topic, but you should have one of the masters casting eagle eyes too.

[Adam J]

Fantoman- I considered that, but it was such a large army I was facing that I figured it was irrelevant and I wanted to get my masters casting blades asap. I am doing that now though with another army of druids (along with correcting the ordering issues I had) since I've shifted over the often painfully inaccurate gifts of heaven.

[nordlys]

This might be a newb question (never tried communions before), but how to reorder mages in the list to ensure the masters are first or last? Isn't commander order more or less random/governed by obscure procedures? Providing someone special is to be used as a master; if it's just "whoever is first/last will be master", the question is moot.

[Gregstrom]

Originally Posted by nordlys

This might be a newb question (never tried communions before), but how to reorder mages in the list to ensure the masters are first or last?

You can't, I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by nordlys

Isn't commander order more or less random/governed by obscure procedures?

It's predictable at least - as noted before, commanders cast in the order you see them in the tactics screen.

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by Gregstrom

You can't, I'm afraid.

It's predictable at least - as noted before, commanders cast in the order you see them in the tactics screen.

[OldMeme]
In Communist Russia, you don't reorder the Communion, the Communion reorders YOU!
[/OldMeme]

:-P