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Old December 28th, 2017, 06:22 PM

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Default Re: Czechoslovak OOB37 and Slovak OOB01

I agree. That's why I didn't propose to add CS units in Great Britain in a very beginning of this thread.
More useful could be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_National_Uprising units, demanding basically extending several Slovak units and formations until 10/44 - but I don't dare to propose it

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It's no secret, that my primary interest are color pictures, and in this purpose I use Mobhack. In most cases I don't check unit by unit, only something that catches my eye, and raises doubts. Sometimes if I find inaccuracies, I catch up and check other similar units and search info. Sometimes the other way - first I read a book, and then wonder, how the units are depicted in SPWW2. If there exist recent detailed sources, especially written by authors coming from these countries, I'm sometimes too eager to share a newly acquired knowledge You do what you want with that info.

And I don't want to create own OOBs, because they would differ only in tens of small adjustments, a handful of new units, and - first of all - maybe a dozen people would ever be interested in them... I passed through a stage of creating own OOBs over 15-20 years ago, when I created a corrected SP-I set (...was it THAT long ago?...). Now I'm only wasting time for creating pictures - and sometimes I spot something, that is IMO worth to correct.

Some people improve game mechanism (which IMO is quite adequate now ), some build maps, some create scenarios, I am accuracy aficionado. And I agree, that most of these changes have no impact on the game, but - at least me - I like to see correct details, like gun or truck icons in a battle - if we don't have a limited symbolic SP-I icon set any more, but already have a lot of them available, and it's enough to choose the best one. You have the man, who does half of the job, instead of just complaining "this truck doesn't resemble what it should" (I know, that you'd just ignore it). Now you can choose if to ignore, or to follow the suggestion of improvement.

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Old December 29th, 2017, 06:33 PM
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It's no secret, that my primary interest are color pictures,
So why not stick mainly to them instead of producing huge lists?
Quick to look at & action.

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And I don't want to create own OOBs, because they would differ only in tens of small adjustments, a handful of new units, and - first of all - maybe a dozen people would ever be interested in them..
By your own admition now all these changes you submit are of little interest to most players. Time to check & action should therefore probably be spent on things that appeal to a larger base of users.

As I said why not submit your top 50 unit changes for the year rather than huge lists.
I am sure some of your corrections would be good but they don't get actioned because they get missed or ignored due to the volume of data you create.

Does this not make sense to you, submit the important stuff only & it might get in rather than most of your work going to waste.
You produce to big a workload at present so are just making lists for your enjoyment.
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It's no secret, that my primary interest are color pictures,
So why not stick mainly to them instead of producing huge lists?
Because, as a perfectionist, when I see an error or something, than can be easily improved (icon, name etc), I can't ignore it. I feel, that my duty is to report it, and it's up to Camo staff, what to do with this knowledge. I agree, that sometimes my remarks may be trivial or annoying - sorry... If I made own OOBs, I'd just simply improve it myself, but as I wrote, it doesn't make any sense. I'm ignoring things, that need more effort, when it isn't worth it, anyway. And yes, I apparently do it for enjoyment - or rather it's an addiction...
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Then you literally refuse to add 1-2 additional companies of infantry on the very same basis and shift availability to 8/44 to make them historically accessible - by argumenting that you can buy units in captured mode.

Maybe I get into your way, I do scenarios - not TOEs. But for the love of God, if it is few minutes work and adds significant amount of units to one of the nations - why not?
Considering the way the OOBs are organised, it is not that trivial to just copy and paste formations from one OOB to another. You will need to add the weapons, then you will need to add the units (using unit classes that are not used for other purposes in that timeframe to avoid mix-ups) and then the formations. Trying to simply copy-paste everything from OOB to another may lead to issues due to the weapon/unit/formation slots being already utilised for other purposes.

Then there is also the issue of maintenability - the more you repeat weapons and units across OOBs, the harder it is to maintain consistency when changes are made to data. Issue probably not helped by the fact that the same weapon or vehicle can exist under different names in different OOBs - though this adds to the historical flavour of the game.
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