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Old February 4th, 2025, 03:26 PM

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345 2S35 Koalitsiya - surely it's not used since 8/18, and it should have radio x3 as for now. Its real operational status and number is unknown, and the Russians didn't boast of its eventual service on Ukrainian front.
Reportedly in 6/20 eight howitzers were handed to experimental military operation. According to Russian Wikipedia [url]https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%A135[/url,] in 8/23 a factory director reported, that the production had started, and state trials would be completed by end of 2023.
Finally, on 5 January 2024(!) TASS agency informed, that Russian army received first Koalitsya-SV https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/19677215

Ordinary range is given on Russian Wikipedia as 40 km, and 70 km only with a corrected ammo. This is BTW another case of GPS/Glonass corrected ammo, but I don't know what is its status. The Russians of course brag as usual, that Koalitsya with its range of 70 or 80 km "has no analogues in the world", but I'd guess, that a long-range precise ammo would be a rarity (provided that it reached production status...).

854 2S43 Malva - now used from 12/22. According to Russian Wikipedia https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2%D0%A143, with a given source, on 26 October 2023 first series vehicles were given to the army. It gives range only 24.5 km = 215, or 40 km with RAP according to https://iz.ru/1595380/2023-10-26/voe...stanovki-malva while now it has a super cannon of Koalitsya with 255 range (it basically has the same 2A88 cannon).

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I've heard only about Excalibur.
I'm sure you know it, but Wikipedia says, that self-propelled guns compatible with the Excalibur projectile are the American M109A6 Paladin and M109A7, British AS-90, German PzH 2000, South African G6, Swedish Archer and French Caesar. Towed guns compatible with the Excalibur projectile are the American M198 and M777 howitzers. Also Ukrainians used Excalibur with Krab.

Current operators: Australia, Canada, Jordan, India, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine (M777 and Krab and possibly others), and of course USA. Future or pending operators: Norway, Germany, Denmark.
Those are the guns I have narrowed down to as a preliminary list and the nation list helps focus

We have just started exploring ways to best present them in the game as they are not "barrage" weapons

...and any thoughts I had about making forward progress just went out the window
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Sounds like this is now a "Dead Project" but, for me I just found the website I've been missing for the last couple of years. Don knows for many years I had include this sites information for just about every submission I made.

The research was very good, and the equipment data was as well.

Then the war came along in 2024, and it seemly died with it.

You wanted country listing it had it in alphabetical order based on everything that's in our world.

I got it to open up its working on my PC. I simply changed my "search plan" to get it and it worked, so I hope it will work in here, which I'll test when I finish this post.

Where I found it from the UK
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...om-gone.44256/
(29 Jan 2025 entry bottom. I believe I accidently came across this site a few years back related to their sites main objective.)


The site...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240808...tarytoday.com/

Artillery Section...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240405.../artillery.htm
(Scroll all the way down to better appreciate the work they did and how deeply they covered each section. by equipment type.)

Couple of random selected individual systems...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240321.../jupiter_5.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240522...illery/agm.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...lery/m1992.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20230821...lery/t5_52.htm

Field Guns and Howitzers...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...ery/trajan.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...777_portee.htm

SPAA...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240324...y/otomatic.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...y/marksman.htm

Fire Support/Tank Destroyers...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117..._IIIc_df90.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20230815...illery/mcv.htm
(One of the last I got from here the picture might look familiar to some.)

MLRS...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...astros_iii.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240117...lery/naiza.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240204...ery/rt2000.htm

Mortars Carriers/SPM...
https://web.archive.org/web/20231126...l_2_mortar.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240204...lery/m1287.htm

Guided Artillery Shells...
https://web.archive.org/web/20240522.../smart_155.htm
(Similar to French Bonus round.)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240315.../krasnopol.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20231204.../santimetr.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20240420..._excalibur.htm
(This was a newer area a couple of years at most before going dark.)



These contributors pretty much were volunteers from many countries especially from inside Russia. Very rarely did I have issues corroborating they're data against my other references I regularly use to this day.

It at the least was my starting point most of the time once I felt comfortable with their data and fact checking. Many times, it was the "middle word" and also the "final word" but it always provided the foundation to build upon and pointed me in the right direction to further look into a piece of equipment.

I HOPE THIS WORKS If for no one else than for me at least.

I have detected that this equipment and the others on this site were manually archived be they shut down to save it somewhere safe.

Rumors at the time suggested the Ukrainian Govt. shut them down for Security reasons. Other say like KBMW they were targeted as well due to their Russian sources.

I would like to think it was a little of the first and more that they joined the fight to save their country. They were young trying to make a living and I hope when this is done that they'll be back "live" again.

EDIT: TESTED ALL SAT/HOW DO I FEEL ABOUT THIS? WELL.../MERRY F-ing Christmas! /HOW DOES CINCLANTHOME FEEL ABOUT THIS AS I JUST RECIEVED A VISITATION AT OPPS 0350-WELL SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS RIDICULES!!

Earlier day later I need to get my "6" (Maybe in more ways than one now after the visit.)!!

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Whether the following has any game impact or not is to be seen.

First half on truck mounted NASAMS in Ukraine. Latter half is on where the USA is going in their system.

"According to Colonel Per Steinar Trøite, head of the Norwegian Air Force’s support department for Ukraine, the NASAMS systems deployed to Ukraine have achieved an outstanding 94 percent effectiveness rate, a figure that highlights the advanced capabilities of this air defense system in real-world combat. In an interview with Aftenposten, Norway's largest daily newspaper, Colonel Trøite detailed the significant impact of NASAMS, revealing that it has successfully intercepted over 900 cruise missiles and drones, with more than 60 percent of these targets being cruise missiles, which are notoriously difficult to defend against."

In today's world that is a very impressive success rate at having a 94% kill rate. That includes also 300+ drones.

To defeat that many cruise missiles equipped with minimal EW is excellent.

Radar can pick up and track multiple targets out to 75 miles.

"The system’s missile engagement can be executed at varying ranges depending on the type of target. For example, while the AIM-120 missile has an effective range of up to 180 kilometers against some targets, NASAMS typically engages threats at a closer range—often between 25 to 50 kilometers—to maximize interception accuracy and minimize the risk of a missile getting through. "

In the field even we use them mounted on trucks (OSHKOSH FMTV 6x6.). The USA will be fielding them in 2025/26. They were also fielded with HIMARS launchers already.
https://www.army.mil/article/145021/...ncher_program/
(The MML has since been replaced under another program. Also, in parallel an autonomous system is also being developed currently as well, also truck mounted with "chopped off" cab design.)


They as pictured are also used for "static" defense of Strategic assets such as airfields etc.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...ess-in-ukraine

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