MP Mists of Time: Early Era Game [full] - Page 37

Firewalker · #**361** August 25th, 2009, 07:49 AM

My understanding is that the previous turns that were submitted at still on Llamaserver and you don't actually need to send a new turn UNLESS YOU STALED.

The reason I rolled the turn back was that I saw a couple people staled and it was probably because of my post that I wanted to do to a rollback because ... well, anyway, the point is that the way the rollback works only the people who staled the turn need to send in turns. So, if you sent in a turn for 39, its still sitting there on the server even though the game page claims it doesn't have it.

Overall, very unhappy time. I'm obviously lacking the spare time to properly admin the game these days and would be great if someone else could take over.

thejeff · #**362** August 25th, 2009, 08:02 AM

It would be nice if the server just used the previous turns. I'd like confirmation before I trusted it though.
And enough people have already sent in new turns that it doesn't remove concerns about taking advantage of info from the rolled back turn.

I'd be willing to take over as admin if you'd like.

Firewalker · #**363** August 25th, 2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thejeff

It would be nice if the server just used the previous turns. I'd like confirmation before I trusted it though.
And enough people have already sent in new turns that it doesn't remove concerns about taking advantage of info from the rolled back turn.

I'd be willing to take over as admin if you'd like.

Llamaserver gives you this explanation of the rollback:

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Read this next bit carefully. I seem to be having difficulties explaining it coherently:

Note that once the game is rolled back, it will appear that the game is waiting for 2h files from all players. However, the 2h files from last time the turn was played will in fact be there, and will be used if the game hosts without them being overwritten. This can be useful; often, a game is rehosted in order for only one or two players to retake their turns, while everyone else is expected to make no changes. The game admin can therefore wait till just those players have submitted, and then force hosting. None of the other players will stale (assuming they actually submitted a 2h file last time the turn was played).

I hope all that makes sense!

I'm not sure if this is posted somewhere on Llamaserver or in his FAQ publically. Anyway, it shouldn't have happened, but it isn't reversible now.

And thanks for the offer to take over admin of the game. I'll PM you the admin password shortly ...

FW

thejeff · #**364** August 25th, 2009, 08:22 AM

Ok. I got the password, so that should be all set.

I don't see that anywhere in the llamaserver FAQ, but it's good to know. Now I don't have to figure out what I was forging

shard · #**365** August 25th, 2009, 08:48 AM

Oh - so if all the turns are actually in there you can just force hosting now?

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Originally Posted by thejeff

Ok. I got the password, so that should be all set.

I don't see that anywhere in the llamaserver FAQ, but it's good to know. Now I don't have to figure out what I was forging

thejeff · #**366** August 25th, 2009, 08:53 AM

I don't know who staled originally, so I don't know if they've gotten the turn in yet.

hoo · #**367** August 25th, 2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DakaSha

i would but sorry i cant. i have to let my sub make his decisions (based on my knowledge) since otherwise my enemy's are just going to work around my turn

I just resubmitted my turn. There's no work around. But if you're having the sub change things based on your knowledge of my submitted turn then that alters everything.

I would assume that R'lyeh submitted the same turn as well.

TwoBits · #**368** August 25th, 2009, 10:53 AM

OK, I'm confused, as to what the heck is going on, and what to do about it. I got resent the rolled-back turn for 39 yesterday, and then got sent turn 40, which seemed to be just fine?!

But then we got rolled back to 39 again? Without getting send another .trn file this time?

Well, whatever, can someone just tell me what I need to do now? Send in my turn 40? Or go back and fine the .2h 39 file, if I still have it? Or find the rolled-back .trn 39 file (again, if I still have it), and redo my turn from that? Or not do anything, because the server has my previous turn, even though it's not showing it (that one got me

)?

hoo · #**369** August 25th, 2009, 11:15 AM

I'm a bit confused as well...

Is there another option that everyone plays turn 40 from the turn mailed out Monday AM before the rollback? do a force hosting and then ignore the new turn and continue with the pre-rollback turn?

thejeff · #**370** August 25th, 2009, 11:24 AM

TwoBits: As far as I know, we only rolled back once.
I'm not sure how you got the messages out of order.
At this point, we're on Turn 39. Apparently you need do nothing, if you didn't stale last turn.

hoo: I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work. The data on the server wouldn't match the data in the pre-rollback turns.