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Old January 22nd, 2017, 03:17 PM
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

That wasn't my intention!?! Would you believe I've already been tracking the replacement for the TYPE 97 APC? I'll give you what I have in the "right thread" for that information which is fairly new.

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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

I forgot to add to the above about the carriers, they would not serve any other purpose in the game much as an airfield doesn't. I could see the argument maybe why some would say there should be a plenty for a carrier. If that should be the case, and just for "food for thought" such penalty should be at either 250 or no more then 500 points plus the cost of the assets involved in jets and air assault troops. But again no penalty for airfields should apply to carriers. A nice picture of the vessel, aircraft/helos fitted for close air support, available from turn one dropping all ordnance, with a ten turn delay between sorties of the pairs as used allowing for recovery, rearming and return, yes as fully loaded aircraft. It can be done after speaking to a retired USN "AO". This assumes a near over the horizon capability of the carrier 100NM off the coast with the jet returning at a speed of 700 knots, flight time would be less than 8.57 minutes. I'm assuming sortie times and delay only because I'm going by memory, that each player turn is 6 mins long? I also only see six to ten pairs being available (Less where limited to available aircraft.) for use based on "other missions in the area" off map. Helos might incur around 12 turn cycle, however their support ships would be at least or could be well inside 50NM from shore.

Air Assault - I think were Jets and possibly AH Helos would fall under the artillery phase to allow for the turn delays. Regular Assault helos might not allow for the return to ship to bring in additional troops and might just have to sit in low altitude hover out to sea on the map unless there is a way to fly them off the map and be able to bring them back on the board when inland progress is being made and using them to lift the troops further inland. Don't know, that's beyond my expertise out here.

Other issues - How hard would it be or can it be done to rearm the recovered jets and attack helos. Or do you just use KISS increase the pairings slightly and simply once they appear on the map and drop all their ordnance, we assume if not shot down they return to the carrier to support "other ops" and NOT return to your AOR.

If your going to suggest something you gotta present the Pro and Cons as far as you can see them. Just me I guess. But I think the concept could open another dimension to the game beyond just landings to maybe include coastal countries as well either locally i.e. Brazil, France (As demonstrated in the Middle East.) or more of world wide projection which in reality might only mean the U.S. and maybe the UK. I can see this for China in the not to distant future as well and India somewhat more operating in the Asian AOR.

Just my thoughts all from a harmless conversation with a retired "AO". That last (AO) is the homework part!


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Latest war games using the F-35 (Red Flag).
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

This comes from the September issue of Combat Aircraft magazine. The Austrian Ministry of Defense has announced plans to withdraw the Austrian Air Forces 15 Tranche 1 Eurofighter Typhoons from service from 2020. The ministry says the reason is that the jets "provide limited equipment and significant cost uncertainty". Hope this is the correct place to post this.
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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

It's as good as any place for that post. I have the following from early June with their being more to it just Tranche 1 EUROFIGHTER, it will also require the SAAB 105OE's and possibly their Pilatus PC-7 trainers replaced as well. As you can see the "numbers" are a big concern as all these decisions are.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...m-2020-439130/

This what I see happening as of right now...

1)Tranche 1 EUROFIGHTER: A possible deal gets worked in some combination or alone with EUROFIGHTER to reduce the cost of maintenance and or upgrade the fighter to a higher standard.

2) SAAB 105OE: Definitely will replace these they've been reliable jets for them that they've had for a longtime now.

3) Pilatus PC-7: I see them keeping these trainers with an upgrade package which are available.

Conclusions:

1a) I'm not sure that EUROFIGHTER will be able to currently pull off the deal as noted in A) above.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ef2000/
http://www.military-today.com/aircra...er_typhoon.htm


So...
2a.) I see a fighter competition coming down to the following...
RAFAEL the one they wish they could have but might not be able to afford basically.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/rafale/
http://www.military-today.com/aircra...ult_rafale.htm


F-16V or next mark down, however, if they want a shot at competing with the Russian stealth fighters, they need to get the "V" series.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...-role-fighter/
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/f16v_viper.htm


GRIPEN C/D 4th Gen+ or the new GRIPEN NG 4th Gen ++, either of these would be a cheaper option in leasing which several countries are doing and just in outright purchasing them as some have done as well. There are currently maybe only 2 or 3 jets that can be considered 4th Gen something. I believe the GRIPEN will be the winner as these fighters meet all their current considerations.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/gripen/
http://www.military-today.com/aircra..._39_gripen.htm


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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

The U.S. has delivered two (of six) A29 Super Tucano light-attack aircraft to Lebanon.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-le...the-us-2017-10?

The pilots have already been training in the U.S.

http://www.janes.com/article/69076/lebanese-super-tucano-pilots-begin-training
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Default Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

If I may:

Afghanistan OOB:

547 EMB-314 - an official designation is A-29 as well (I suggest: A29 SuperTucano). They first arrived in 1/16 (now: 4/15) https://www.militarytimes.com/2015/1...tack-aircraft/ - needs a formation 089 change as well

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Fallout Re: Jets & Planes but no UAV's here.

The above would be correct and from my files...
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...planes-in.html
http://www.airforce-technology.com/n...rom-us-4786738
http://www.janes.com/article/68843/a...ighting-season
http://armydotmil.com/afghan-air-for...tack-aircraft/


Both names are correct. A-29 Super T... would make it easier to find the plane should there be any offensive or defensive capability changes down the road across all country users.

OV-10 BRONCO G+ not dead!?! And it ain't your
Dad's" OV-10 BRONCO from Vietnam ethier...
https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/...-capabilities/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politi...sis/index.html
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/ov...d-a-1764407068
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA-N...Bronco/2651703
https://www.usni.org/magazines/proce...12-cleared-hot


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