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Boron · #31 July 14th, 2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by Lach:
I have had 1/7'th of the map bottlenecked to 3 points which had an ENORMEOUS number of exspensive troops protecting them... I have about 20 sages in a back province researching, just finshed researching enchantment, conjuration and alteration....

hehe you will start to love wish (alteration 9)

Lach · #32 July 14th, 2004, 06:09 PM

I managed to get about 2/7'ths of the world map and would of gotten another 7'th but decided to bunker in.

I summoned massive numbers of undead and held my borders.... then I casted weight of yeas(or whatever its called) and the one that causes global darkness.... SUDDENLY the only enemy left(the guy on the other 1/7'th was weak and died quickly to the third guy left, one guy had the other 4/7'th of the map) was able to summon litteral hordes of undead..... I didnt see him cast one death magic spell the whole game..... and somehow he still maintained a good chunk of his army even though he only has 10% of the income.... is it me or is weight of ages worthless? It only affects like 100 units a turn.... well not useless but not very usefull, if its you and one or two other enemies your pumping out more then that per turn, not a significant dent..... I wish it didnt hurt your own troops.

I lost.

As for wish.... the only thing I could wish for were gems-and I rarley got enough to replace the spell, or artifacts.... I couldnt find anything else that would work, any hints?

[ July 14, 2004, 17:37: Message edited by: Lach ]

Endoperez · #33 July 14th, 2004, 07:03 PM

Well, if you want to win, Wish for a "Doom Horror" or "Vastness". Two very powerful monsters. After that you will be very, VERY nervous if someone casts Wish, especially if that someone is human... AI does Wish for things that bad.

I think that your enemy suddenly lost almost all his mages, and had only a small bunch of undead mages left. As he had almost nothing to use his gems on and was too short on cash to be able to buy mages that could be useful he used alchemy to get more money and Death gems. He then either summoned more undead mages (maybe Revenants) and with them casted Reanimation, or Demiliches (Lichcraft) and more powerful summons.

Or maybe he just had so many provinces that even with 10% income he massed huge armies on the provinces near your border.

For masses of undead you could have survived by casting Thaumaturgy spells Control Dead (

)and Wither Bones (high armor-negating damage, no resistances or saving throw, only vs undead). Also, Earth spell Blade Wind does wonders against all low-protection units your enemy might have.

I haven't yet tried to play a game that big to the end... It seems that it will be interesting.

SelfishGene · #34 July 14th, 2004, 07:23 PM

"In Illwinter's game Dominions 2, you can build temples, wage wars against pagan neighbors, and research fantasitcal magical spells. But Wish requires exact spelling.... and it doesn't take American Express.

VISA, its everywhere you want to be."

Norfleet · #35 July 14th, 2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Lach:
then I casted weight of yeas(or whatever its called) and the one that causes global darkness.... SUDDENLY the only enemy left(the guy on the other 1/7'th was weak and died quickly to the third guy left, one guy had the other 4/7'th of the map) was able to summon litteral hordes of undead..... I didnt see him cast one death magic spell the whole game.....

Great move there, Charlie. You cast Burden of Time *AND* Utterdark as Broken Empire? Are you nuts? Utterdark/BoT is only for dead nations, ones that entirely lack living troops and normal income. If you are a living nation, I.E., one that receives income and recruits national units, never cast these!

Lach · #36 July 14th, 2004, 09:08 PM

I thought the other ermor themes only slowly killed your population and gave some free undead, not turned your whole nation into undead?

I had enough undead to hold my borders so I didnt need my mundane troops anymore.... it didnt stop the enemy though so he ran over me.

Lach · #37 July 14th, 2004, 09:08 PM

I thought the other ermor themes only slowly killed your population and gave some free undead, not turned your whole nation into undead?

I had enough undead to hold my borders so I didnt need my mundane troops anymore.... it didnt stop the enemy though so he ran over me.

Lach · #38 July 14th, 2004, 09:08 PM

I thought the other ermor themes only slowly killed your population and gave some free undead, not turned your whole nation into undead?

I had enough undead to hold my borders so I didnt need my mundane troops anymore.... it didnt stop the enemy though so he ran over me.

Edit: Woah triple post, sorry.

[ July 14, 2004, 20:10: Message edited by: Lach ]

Norfleet · #39 July 14th, 2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Lach:
I thought the other ermor themes only slowly killed your population and gave some free undead, not turned your whole nation into undead?

That depends on how you define "slowly". On 24 hour hosting, yeah, I suppose that is pretty slow. It does take several days for this to happen that way. In single player, I'd say your entire nation will be undead in a matter of minutes.

Lach · #40 July 15th, 2004, 12:18 AM

How does getting the free undead work? Is your population replaced by undead or you get free undead units? What about gold/production?