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Double blessing can work - in fact, I think it's fairly viable with Jotuns.  Niefelheim though - can't remember if they still get the Jotun Woodsmen, and the Niefel giants are pretty expensive to build a strategy around (especially as they're capitol only, as are the Woodsmen).  When you go so heavy on a bless strategy, it doesn't make sense to build all that many non-blessed troops....
 
And if your troops were routing frequently, it doesn't sound like you centered it around the woodsmen / Niefels, since once blessed they wouldn't have routed.  (You _were_ blessing them, right?     )
 
Also, Earth Momma doesn't go particularly well with Jotunheim, imo - her fatigue climbs _way_ too fast, since she isn't comfortable in the cold.  Personally, I think Nature/Water works better with Jotunheim; possibly Nature/Fire, or Nature/Air (protection from all those nasty crossbows).
 
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				November 22nd, 2004, 06:10 PM
			
			
			
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				November 22nd, 2004, 06:43 PM
			
			
			
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		| I think double-bless troops is a typical newbie strategy. 
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But I was really amazed when I tried to count how much a fire 9 astral 9 dragon costs. Urgh. 
I would never have guts to pay so much for the pretender.
 
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				November 22nd, 2004, 06:52 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 yah, you need truly atrocious scales for something like that.  really, w/ zen's scale mod included such ultradragons will cease to be viable, i think.  but i'm a fan of pushing bless strats when the opportunity arises.  hell, when i encountered thufir's super cyclops (A4E8N3), 140 hp 30 prot mistform mirror image 14 regen, i only lost 110 gold in troops taking him down...
 the scales are so bad i was trying to avoid spreading dominion, until i started to risk dominion death - i think it was around turn 20 i was down to a combined total of 7 pts of existing dominion in the world... :O
 
 edit:  hmm, it might actually have been only 5 pts - i seem to remember having dom3 in my cap, and domions of 1 in two territories.
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 Yes, Niefel still gets woodsman troops, woodsman scouts (commanders), Jotun Jarls (different from Niefel Jarls) and Jotun Godes.  Plus Niefel Jarls and Niefel giants.  Lots of good bless troops!  I really like the Woodsman Scouts.  They cost no more than Woodsmen -- 50 gold, 11 resources -- and they are stealthy commanders with javelins.
 They *were* blessed, but the routed because all units were either commanders or bodyguards, and one unit was killed.  :-P
 
 As to which blessings to get, I searched all of the Jotunheim pretenders to see if I could get two reasonable blessings for the cheapest price in points.  Earth Mother Nature+Earth was the cheapest.  I would take any pair of blessings made up of Earth, Fire, Water, Nature, Blood and Astral, except not Astral+Nature.
 
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 I don't mind playing this one slow.  But would like to get a **Turn Hosting** note on this board so I don't have to check the IP day after day...-Yc
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 Sorry,
 I'll log in when I get off work... about 12 hours or so, and get my turn in.  I just kind of got used to the game not moving.
 
 
 
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 Is this game dead yet?Hehe.
 Every week we do like a turn.  Lets take a vote to decide if the game will continue.
 Ulm
 Rylah
 Mictlan-Continue 48 Fixed host
 Pan- Continue 48 Hr fixed host
 Emor- Continue 48HR quick
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				 Re: MP Game - European War 2 
 48hour fixed would be my choice - then we know exactly when the new turns are due / coming.
 
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