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September 13th, 2005, 09:50 PM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
Thermo has it spot-on, but I dont expect anyone to agree with him. If you're happy hateing Microsoft, then keep on keeping on.
as with most things, each iteration of the windows operating system (with a couple of short-lived exceptions) has been better than the last. more stable, robust, secure. sure its sometimes a good idea to wait until SP1 comes out, but thats true for ANY developer's software.
And if you have been keeping up with Longhorn development news, you'd already know that the portents for this release are pretty good. If you've only been keeping up with the hype, then you can keep on hating Microsoft and think they're copy cats that have stolen the Mac desktop theme. Ignore that Mac stole it from Gnome / KDE, which are both efforts to copy / improve on windows.
The GUI wars go back to Xerox PARC; who cares where the first good idea came from, I'll take practical useability over originality any day of the week.
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September 13th, 2005, 09:54 PM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
Well, I didn't notice much improvement from Windows 95 to 98 to ME, but Windows XP is definitely more stable and crashes much less often. I use XP at work and sometimes a month goes by without any problems.
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September 13th, 2005, 10:49 PM
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ME was, for me, a piece of trash. Crashed constantly. Now XP...works great for me, has never (that I can remember) crashed on me, and I've never had a security breach that I know of. Then again, I keep the antivirus up to date, don't open emails and/or attachments that I dont' know who they're from, have firewalls installed, etc. Which, as other's have said, is plenty used in conjunction with XP.
People hate MS because people hate success. That's just how the human psyche works it seems. He's successful, and we want to be as successful as he is, but can't be, so we'll hate him instead.
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September 13th, 2005, 11:29 PM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
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If you've only been keeping up with the hype, then you can keep on hating Microsoft and think they're copy cats that have stolen the Mac desktop theme. Ignore that Mac stole it from Gnome / KDE, which are both efforts to copy / improve on windows.
The GUI wars go back to Xerox PARC; who cares where the first good idea came from, I'll take practical useability over originality any day of the week.
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Hay! What about Enlightenment and Solaris?
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September 14th, 2005, 01:32 AM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
anyone going to the expense of running solaris shouldnt really be slowing it down with a gui. but, whatever.
I count ME as a short lived exception. it filled a tiny gap between 98se and XP for a short period of time, and never really needed to exist.
and pretty much any "home" version of anything - which are basically stripped down versions of the real version, with more wizards and irritating assumptions made for you. and more packaged software... dont forget the preinstalled garbage.
which is another reason alot of home users dont think windows works. it comes with all sorts of crazy junk from manufacturers and advertising partners that is likely to screw up your PC. I think its a testament to window's stability that it runs AT ALL with that garbage on there, and that its possible to write such diverse and unregulated trash in the first place.
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September 14th, 2005, 08:22 AM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
Windows is the only operating system that runs my games. That's all I need.
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September 14th, 2005, 10:42 AM
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Windows is the only operating system that runs my games. That's all I need.
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September 14th, 2005, 10:46 AM
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Besides, it comes preinstalled on what? 95% or more of computers? Hey, it comes with the computer, it works, it's compatible with practically everything, what more could you ask for?
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September 14th, 2005, 11:01 AM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
I just got my confirmation about the HP suite yestarday. Sure enough people are pissed off about the OS being stored on a partition of the HD and not getting a back up disk with the info. (Kinda hard to install an OS when the OS is on the drive that FAILED!!!!)
It asks me to sign a statement swaring that I am the ORIGINAL owner of the PC. Well I am not..... by that I mean this..
It was sent to me DIRECTLY from HP as a new Computer, however, it did belong to someone before me as I discovered when the CDROM failed. So what do I do??? Do I say I am the original owner? I cannot, I have to call the law firm that is handling the case and be advised. I will not purger myself for a free copy of an OS that should have been given with the PC! HP is EVIL!!
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September 14th, 2005, 11:04 AM
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Re: Microsoft VISTA
If a friend works for a software company, you can get their developer OS disks and not have to pay for the OS... My dad works at a software company, and he gets the latest stuff of anything dealing with software. Free developer studio, free microsoft office, free operating systems... And sometimes free computers!
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