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August 15th, 2008, 08:38 PM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
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Xietor
When you tell mage to retreat he always retreats be it Seraph or Theurg and there's no AI perspective in this case: he retreats because you told him to. And absolutely the same behavior is expected from Returning spell because it makes no sense if it is unpredictable. I still think it is very wrong that returning can be overridden by anything else at all.
You may ask a hundred of players if they expect returning be different from retreat in the sense of scripting and I'm absolutely sure that more than 70% will say they should be treated in the same way.
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83% of all people believe random statistics that they read.
Sorry, I had to. I would tend to agree, all Returning is, is magical Retreat.
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August 15th, 2008, 08:43 PM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
Of course, it's only my estimation.
I created a poll to make it more realistic, btw .
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August 15th, 2008, 08:55 PM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
I am not disagreeing on whether he ought to retreat, I am just explaining why I think he is not retreating.
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August 15th, 2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
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I am not disagreeing on whether he ought to retreat, I am just explaining why I think he is not retreating.
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I understand that, of course, I just think that such behavior is not correct and not logical.
Also, the bug this thread was opened for still seems to have some other nature because I made the exactly the same tests and golem did cast returning.
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August 15th, 2008, 10:04 PM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
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Originally Posted by Xietor
Try it with an 8 hp mage. If the 8 hp mage returns every time with no pd, then my point is proven.
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a 9 hp mage.
a 77 pt seraph
a 77pt seraph
a 300 pt pretender.
No returns were cast.
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August 15th, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
I had this bug in DarkParadise with an Astral Monolith and Horrors. Basically, even a Horror is not enough to prevent a script override.
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August 16th, 2008, 07:18 AM
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Re: Returning script ignored. Bug?
And that is the worst in this bug: it is unstable and unexpectable
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