Utopia - new MA rich game! (game on!) - Page 4

Zeldor · #31 December 14th, 2009, 08:54 AM

There is? I just followed download link from llamaserver and found zipped file in 1st post and tried to use that.

Gregstrom · #32 December 14th, 2009, 10:11 AM

Maybe llamaserver uses Windows?

I've altered the mod, but work won't let me upload it. Watch this space, I guess. What's the issue with parsing of the nation description?

Zeldor · #33 December 14th, 2009, 11:44 AM

It's all messed up, nothing shows in new line, where it's supposed to [Priests, Magic, etc]. I am pretty sure that llamaserver uses Linux. Did anyone try to play game with that nation there? And it won't really care about stuff like that really as it's for graphics only.

Gregstrom · #34 December 14th, 2009, 12:28 PM

I'm playing with Themiskyra on Llamaserver currently (Dramatica), so I know that works fine. I've no idea how to put new lines in a nation description, sadly. However... see attachment.

Zeldor · #35 December 14th, 2009, 01:11 PM

Ok, fixed it. That modwriting is really poor :P

Mistakes: [I don't know what to do about nation description though]
- "/" in the beginning of links should not be there, it creates "//" and causes a bug
- capital letters do matter, you cannot have p linking to P and other way - so I had to erase "/" from all links, changed everywhere "themiskyra" to "Themiskyra" [to match graphics folder] and make all .tga files start with capital letters

Nation looks cool, but why valkyries and shadow vestals as recruitables? Other units make sense.

Anyway - concept looks fine, but I think that nation needs some tweaking and balancing to make it viable in MP.

namad · #36 December 14th, 2009, 02:49 PM

maybe we should go with indies9 to match the whole high everything theme?

indies9 with 250% gold should be EASIER than indies5 100% gold anyways... even with indies9 awake pretenders might be totally unused...

Gregstrom · #37 December 14th, 2009, 05:00 PM

Part of the mod looks like the creator shoved in a load of female stuff because it was 'thematic to have all the female units there'. I'm not sure the vestals and valkyries add anything to the nation, but since they don't seem to be power units I'm not that worried about their presence.

I'm aware more tweaking and balancing is needed, partly because I suspect it'll have a pretty weak mid/late game. That's why I'm trying to get it into MP games at the moment.

Squirrelloid · #38 December 14th, 2009, 05:15 PM

The valkyries and shadow vestals are power units. Shadow vestals are *amazing* with S9, valkyries at least look pretty awesome (thinking W bless at least, probably WS or FW).

Zeldor · #39 December 14th, 2009, 05:16 PM

Ok, as for the map, we can either:

1. Scrap water nations [but alt nations got already picked] and play GreeceStain [new Pasha's land only map]
2. Get few more and play bigger map [Alexander or Asia Twist]
3. Wait till [if] Pasha can make us new map [so till New Year].

Zeldor · #40 December 14th, 2009, 05:25 PM

Gregstrom:

Sure, their mages are weak, but give good research. 110B mages are not very expensive either and can work well with worse scales needed for sacreds. Valkyries and Shadow Vestal are surely considered one of the best sacreds around. Of course different blesses work for them. Recruitable fear cavalry is great too, very expensive, but stacked fear does wonders. I don't think you'd get reliable test info here at those settings. That nation here would be way way stronger than on normal settings. Also - they could use some magicless commanders. And composite bows are really strong, which makes their starting army really strong too.