Can someone tell me about Machaka?

[thejeff]

Magma Eruption is useless against Fog Warriors? Doesn't it break the mistform at least? So the second cast does damage?
Sure those examples are midgame spells, though still useful.

Lategame, they'll have Army of Gold/Lead, Petrify, Relief, Mass Regen/Protection, Charm, Earthquake, Tartarians and all the Death magic/summons.

[Jarkko]

Originally Posted by thejeff

Magma Eruption is useless against Fog Warriors? Doesn't it break the mistform at least?

Not automatically. Sometimes it breaks, sometimes not. Just ran a ten tests with an Ulm smith scripted Hold, Magma Bolt, Retreat (as I think Magma bolts are basically same things as Magma eruption just on a smaller scale; if I am wrong I am certain somebody will correct me) on a titan (as I wanted to repeat the test a few times, I guess it basic HP does not make any difference to mistform breaking or not) who was defending and did cast mistform (hard to tell with magma bolts though, not sure if one or more bolts do hit) Hold x 4, and in five tests mistform didn't break. I guess the magma bolt (and magma eruption) damage is not magical damage?

[Torin]

Black Sorcerer F3

+2 pen rod+flaming helm+eyeof the void+spell focus

Phoenix power + Blindness ( pen + 7)

This looks better and research lower.

[Jarkko]

Originally Posted by Torin

Black Sorcerer F3

+2 pen rod+flaming helm+eyeof the void+spell focus

Phoenix power + Blindness ( pen + 7)

This looks better and research lower.

Torin, excuse me, but looks better for what? As far as I know just Rage and Hydrophobia are the only fire spell requiring a MR check, so I think you are not refering to them. I must be missing something obvious here but I don't understand what

[cleveland]

Originally Posted by Jarkko

Torin, excuse me, but looks better for what? As far as I know just Rage and Hydrophobia are the only fire spell requiring a MR check, so I think you are not refering to them. I must be missing something obvious here but I don't understand what

Fail your DRN Jarkko?

p.s. were you confusing Magma Eruption with Blade Wind before?

Also, OP: The colossal fetish is awesome. Don't let these guys tell you otherwise. Go Dom9, A4E3, use your native E gems to give him some Behemoth Boots, and watch that size-6 zero-encumbrance 25-protection block of lumber roll over everyone in sight. Give him Mistform & he's good through mid-game. Cloud Trapeze and your raiding problems are mitigated. Use your consequentially awesome scales to fort-spam your way to Evocation Annihilation. Skellispam + Poison Cloud + Spiders. Spider Warrior raiders everywhere. Magma Eruption + Militia blockers for the tough guys. Your Black Sorcerers are semi-immortal, abuse that. Bring plenty of lantern shields to every party. Ears of the Lord with bane charm venoms uncatchable thanks to their unrest incitement. Could there be a cooler nation???

[BigDaddy]

Originally Posted by cleveland

Fail your DRN Jarkko?

p.s. were you confusing Magma Eruption with Blade Wind before?

Also, OP: The colossal fetish is awesome. Don't let these guys tell you otherwise. Go Dom9, A4E3, use your native E gems to give him some Behemoth Boots, and watch that size-6 zero-encumbrance 25-protection block of lumber roll over everyone in sight. Give him Mistform & he's good through mid-game. Cloud Trapeze and your raiding problems are mitigated. Use your consequentially awesome scales to fort-spam your way to Evocation Annihilation. Skellispam + Poison Cloud + Spiders. Spider Warrior raiders everywhere. Magma Eruption + Militia blockers for the tough guys. Your Black Sorcerers are semi-immortal, abuse that. Bring plenty of lantern shields to every party. Ears of the Lord with bane charm venoms uncatchable thanks to their unrest incitement. Could there be a cooler nation???

In his defense, that is quite a penalty.

Also:
I was trying him with astral, because he's mindless... but only used him is SP so I'm still not sure. It seems a sure thing with Evo though.

[cleveland]

That was my exact build from some MP game a while back (still have the god file). If I recall correctly it was an all MA nations game and I was top 3 in provinces the whole game. Came to a sudden end due to some weird victory conditions and the Admiral's brilliant exploit of some quirky start locations.

But I was pulling off a double invasion quite nicely at the time. I think my long term goal was to have him forge the Air boosters and be my Fog Warrioring/Mass Flighting teleporter supporting my swarms of spiders and berserking, SoG'd, WoS'd, dirt-cheap militia.

[Jarkko]

Originally Posted by cleveland

Fail your DRN Jarkko?

I certainly did

However, I definitively need more coffee to understand the why this would be a good thing anyway. Would you really put expensive items (requiring paths Machaka does not have) on a squishy black sorceror to be able to cast a Range 15 spell which is usable against single SC's only? And if it is a trampling SC or a SC with some damaging aura, you got pretty much nothing for the effort.

If I had all those items available, I'd use Shadow Bolts to paralyze the SC. Long range, and even if the bolts don't kill the target, a paralyzed target is a dead target. Sure, will end up with lower +Penetration ("just" +5), but on the other hand you can use the spell even when the SC is still buffing up.

But as I said, I definitively need more coffee to get my brains awoke.

[thejeff]

I'd guess Magma Bolts were missing. Did they do any damage? The 1 pt that you see hitting mistform?

[anonymity]

I think Magma Bolts (and other bolts) can be parried by a Shield. So a Titan may not be the best test subject.