spob20 Yugoslavia corrections/suggestions

[DRG]

Originally Posted by zastava128

And for my final contribution, some .lbm files for Yugoslavia. I've tried them and they work fine in my game. Readme file is in the archive and details what they're meant to replace (for the infantry that is; the vehicles and arty should be obvious).

Attachment 12636

(yes, most of the SMGs are actually Sten guns, but I couldn't find any *good* photo of a SMG squad armed with PPSh-41s)

I probably won't be starting work on the Yugo OOB until after Christmas and as much as I would like to use the LBM's most are , to be honest, not salvageable, but if you can give me links to where you found them I can start fresh with the originals unless you have the originals on file and if you do we can work out a transfer.

Don

[zastava128]

Originally Posted by DRG

I probably won't be starting work on the Yugo OOB until after Christmas and as much as I would like to use the LBM's most are , to be honest, not salvageable, but if you can give me links to where you found them I can start fresh with the originals unless you have the originals on file and if you do we can work out a transfer.

Don

Very well, here's the links. I've found some additional/better photos in the meantime.

Ustase militia
http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=102343
http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=102349
http://i48.tinypic.com/2rxie79.jpg

Ustase Ansaldo
http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=131516

Ustase TK-3 (not TKS as I originally thought...)
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/577/048ip.jpg

Ustase PzKW I
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3985/pz1tranpm3di3.jpg

Ustase L6/40
http://i52.tinypic.com/3583wba.jpg
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...97186&start=30

Ustase PzKw IV F1
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3...kwf20iv4vb.jpg

Partisan Autoblinda 41
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5563/blinda2ajs7.jpg

Partisan AEC MKII
http://stef124.tripod.com/Aec-3.jpg
or
http://stef124.tripod.com/Aec-2.jpg

Various Cetnik infantry:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tnici_1944.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/524...nicetnici2.jpg
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7562/zzzzeo.jpg
http://i35.piczo.com/view/2/b/v/9/6/...2809_46078.gif
http://s017.radikal.ru/i419/1203/11/f83ca4ccaab5.jpg
http://www.shotgunnews.com/files/201...hetniks.02.jpg

Partisan Schwarzlose HMG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...vnica_1944.jpg

Partisan T-34/76
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...01945/a001.jpg
or
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...-34_hex_94.jpg

Partisan T-34/85
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/yugoslav...t_34_85_01.jpg

Forward Observer
http://www.barikada.com/slike04/yugo...kovacevic1.jpg

Partisan Hetzer
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs2...6_hetzer-3.JPG

Partisan L6/40
http://oklop2.tripod.com/fiatl6-1.jpg
or
http://www.ratnakronikasplita.com/sl...ja_tenkova.jpg

Partisan L3 tankette
http://oklop2.tripod.com/fiat-1.jpg

Partisan M7 Priest
http://www.oklop.net23.net//m7/m7-3.jpg

Partisan M8 Scott
http://stef124.tripod.com/m-8how.jpg
or
http://stef124.tripod.com/m8-1how.jpg

Partisan PIAT
http://www.mycity-military.com/slika..._john_bull.JPG

Partisan M15/42
http://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php...h=268431;image

Partisan H39
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs2...7580_h39-9.jpg

Partisan scout
http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...plitvice-1.jpg

Partisan 81mm Mortar
http://24.media.tumblr.com/3972074df...oy9ro1_500.jpg

Various Partisans (1941 to 1944)
-basically, these can replace the pics of any of the following units: 42, 45, 87, 115, 118, 122
http://tacno.net/wp-content/uploads/...8455350905.jpg
http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/ar...i_227159S1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ka_brigada.JPG
http://makarska-post.com/wp-content/.../partizani.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...vPartisans.jpg
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=74882

Yugoslav Army 1945
-these can replace the pics of any of the following units: 47, 48, 81, 82
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...COURTHOUSE.jpg
http://www.radiosarajevo.ba/upload/i...evo_6april.jpg
http://globus.jutarnji.hr/incoming/2...eb1-1-copy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...X/Scan0018.jpg
http://www.mladina.si/media/www/slik...ec_display.jpg
http://www.evarazdin.hr/cms/wp-conte...ni-485x273.jpg

Partisan cavalry
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs2...Leskovac...jpg

Partisan M1 Pack Howitzer
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=75748

Partisan Breda AA
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=87983

Partisan Hurricane IV
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/x...psc0db82a0.jpg

Partisan Spitfire V
http://www.forgottenairfields.com/up...ne/04_Kane.jpg
or
http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories...ugoslavia1.jpg

Partisan Spitfire IX
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/769...unikvi1945.jpg

Partisan Il-2 (this photo is from just after the end of the war - during the war they still had Soviet markings)
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs/...so%201945..jpg


I'm attaching several more that can't be found online to the zip file below. Some may not be good enough but I'm afraid that's the only usable ones I found (others either have lots of soldiers on them, are partly obscured etc.).


A couple of photos (Breda MG, Oerlikon AA, BA-64) are MIA. They'll probably have to wait for version 7.0

[zastava128]

One comment I forgot, related to the pictures for SMG and engineer squads.

I couldn't really find a photo of a Yugoslav SMG squad with PPsh-41, but the current OOB has a Soviet soldier - who looks rather out of place (the Yugoslav Army didn't use helmets, for a start). Ditto for the engineers.

So if you don't want to use one of the photos provided above,
my suggestion would be to use:

LBM 21034 for units 48 and 82
LBM 14009 for unit 52

[DRG]

Thanks. It's all now on the list. Some great photos here. However, some ( I have not checked every one ) like

Partisan H39
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs2...7580_h39-9.jpg

and

Partisan Hetzer
http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs2...6_hetzer-3.JPG

given me back " 403 forbidden" so I'm guessing any others from mycity-military will give me the same. If you could dig those out and post them I will be able to used them ( edit- EXCEPT the PIAT... that allowed me to view it )

Don

[zastava128]

You're welcome.

Strange, seems some from mycity-military still work for me, but some have stopped. In any case here's a zip with all pics from that site (except the PIAT).

Seems that Tripod is acting up as well so I've also added the AEC and M8 Scott pics to the zip.

[DRG]

The internet can be cranky sometimes. The IL-2 I got OK the first time around but with those other sites who knows they may have worked for me if I tried again 10 minutes later

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by zastava128

You're welcome.

Strange, seems some from mycity-military still work for me, but some have stopped. In any case here's a zip with all pics from that site (except the PIAT).

Seems that Tripod is acting up as well so I've also added the AEC and M8 Scott pics to the zip.

I think you should give a link to a page with pictures instead of linking to pictures - hotlinking to content might be disabled.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by zastava128

1. Suggestion: I think cavalry should be available from 1942, as it was historically used by the various local militias/guerillas and the reformed Yugoslav army..

How big would a Partisan Cav formation get ? I have a rather interesting mounted Cav "platoon" built. There were 10 man partisans in that OOB and a group of 5 man units all under the same unitclass and I've separated them into 10 man 76-partisan and 5 man 234-partisan squad. It's those 5 many units I'm mounting two per cav mount unit. Right now I have a nominal platoon of 30 --six units plus three mount units but I don't know if I should make a full company as well


Don

[zastava128]

Originally Posted by DRG

How big would a Partisan Cav formation get ? I have a rather interesting mounted Cav "platoon" built. There were 10 man partisans in that OOB and a group of 5 man units all under the same unitclass and I've separated them into 10 man 76-partisan and 5 man 234-partisan squad. It's those 5 many units I'm mounting two per cav mount unit. Right now I have a nominal platoon of 30 --six units plus three mount units but I don't know if I should make a full company as well


Don

I've looked up Anić and - guess what - partisan cav platoons officially had 30 men. There was one such platoon per partisan brigade (when possible).

Companies ("squadrons" would be a better translation) did exist, but only from 9/44 on. They had 3 platoons each (+ squadron HQ).

[zastava128]

Just noticed I attached the pic of a StuG III G but it's not on my list of suggestions. To clear that up: a couple of them were captured as early as 11/44 in Belgrade, but were only used for training. A few may have been pressed into service in the last days of the way (crewed by Germans who were held at gunpoint). So if you do put them in, they should be 5/45 or 6/45 to 12/46.

Another thing: since the Autoblinda 41 is going to be moved to a later date, this will mean the Armoured Car formation will be empty until 9/43. Will this cause a problem with AI picklists? If so, I can upload a photo of an improvised AC that could plug that gap.