(OT) Some advice for me / My Depression Thread / Thanks forumers

[Loser]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
Loser- Do you really play those games? LOL!

Hell yes I do!

Taera, you should try these just for the language work. With a Russian accent you might even have an edge to play that I never would.

I am very proud of my name tag collection. The best is from Lisa in Disneyland; that one took flirting to get. Most actually come pretty easy, or just don't come at all. The rejection is part of the learning experience.

My friends often hand me the phone, should I be at their house when they get a solicitation call. They all love it when I do strange things to strangers, and the person on the other end of the phone usually can't do anything. As soon as all their employers start letting them hang up it will be much more difficult to play this game. I once brought a stop to all other conversation and activity, including corner-necking, at a party with my show-stopping horrid performance of "Sweet Caroline" by Neil Diamond; I don't know all the words (mumble bumble) and make noises for the fanfare (BA Ba ba). It was my finest moment that month.

I originally got the idea for "Get a Job" from "American Beauty". I didn't really want the no-stress McDonalds job, but I decided to see what the interview would be like: what fun! Try it!

There is another good game for learning human behavior and social signals, but it's kind of dangerous: Poker. That'll teach you a few things. Just never play with fools or sharks, never bring money you can't lose, and if you go to a casino never ever play at the table with the local retirees.

The most important game is "Make the Stranger Talk". That's the game that started it all and the one that make it possible for me to talk to strangers today. It has also forged interesting and unexpected bonds with some usfull people. Some...

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[ May 23, 2003, 03:56: Message edited by: Loser ]

[Taera]

loser, i can see how good those games are but thats not me its not my personality-style jokes/games yet still thanks for the advice.

[Loser]

You are quite welcome.

Looking over what I've written, I guess it wouldn't work for anyone who doesn't play the part of the clown....
Oh well.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

forgive the people you hate...hate over even short periods of time does way more damage to you than to them. i'm doing that, and i'm alot happier.
besides, if your so annoyed all the time that you occasionally growl at annoying people, that's not good. if i went out more, i might have introduced some suriealty into some peoples lives.

[Taera]

1 hated person (completely mutual and complete personalities conflict. one thing i dont regret leaving in Israel) since four years ago. i learned that lesson, thanks.

[Taera]

Q: how to deal with amotivation/'lazyness'?

[Erax]

Since you mentioned feeling 'down' in the afternoon, it could just be your daily cycle. Sun Tzu wrote something about the army being ready to fight in the morning and useless by nightfall, so it's nothing new.

Regular physical activity will give you an extra 'zip' which Lasts the whole day, even during the down-part of your cycle (that's what's so great about it, you'll feel better even when not exercising).

Improving some aspect of your situation (making some friends, for example) will reduce frustration and help fight depression.

About the girl... you said she is a very social person, but I get the feeling she isn't dating anyone else. When you feel you are ready, you could begin by asking her just that - 'You have so many friends, how come you aren't dating anyone ?' It's a classic line, it gives her a pretty good idea of your intentions but it doesn't commit you to anything, and her answer will help you decide what to do next.

[oleg]

Andrey, there should be a large Russian/Ukranian/Jew diaspora in Canada.
You can probably find few people with close mentality.
When I lived as a student in US, I had no problem
finding compatriot students !

Cheers, Oleg.

[Ruatha]

Ok, a tip from my wife the psychologist

Brainstorm what activities you can see yourself doing instead of sitting home doing nothing (well, almost nothing).
I e going to the cinema, library whatever.
Pick one of these activities that you feel is reasonable to to, then plan when you will do it.
For example, "I'm gonna see matrix reloaded, even if I'm going myself", "I'm gonna do it saturday evening" (preferabbly as soon as possible, for example tomorrow.
If you feel like it then ask someone if they want to accompany you but thats not mandatory.
What is mandatory is to do that thing when it is planned, no matter how tired/unmotivated you are.
Then when you come home you check what it was like. Was it better to go or would it have been better to stay home (Preferably you'll end up with - Better to have gone!). Then plan another activity, and so on.

The important part is to do first and feel later.
I e, "I don't feel like going to the cinema" (Crap!) -> Go to the cinema first and then feel if you felt like going after you've been there.

Post here and say how it goes, if you have to do that the chances of you doing it are bigger (or mail me if you don't wanna post public)

So you can post here (or mail);
Tomorrow, movie Matrix
and then the next day;
Went to Matrix, was fun, Tomorrow going biking with (the girl/friend).

[ May 23, 2003, 16:23: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Taera]

Erax: daily cycle? just as well possible. as for the girl, she isnt dating someone but she has a crush, as it seems, on that guy - some friend of a friend IIRC, from another province. complicates things doesnt it :-/ but yea she broke with her b/f some time ago

Minipol: im too inquisitive and investigative for my own good im trying to put myself into the "act" position tho.
as for amotivation, well, thats the first time in my life im suffering from it. what i mean is complete lack of wish to do anything. no, thats wrong. i _WANT_ to do something but cant get myself to.

Oleg: i dont get along too well with russians as it stands. israeli/russians (i mean, those who are both) have quite a different mentality. i will be though looking into that when a chance arises.

Ruatha: interesting idea, i might start doing it. as i said previously i dont commonly talk about myself too much but maybe. as for matrix i've seen that one, with the same girl what yes, there's the financial problems on my side. i cant burden my parents ATM and im only now starting to look for a job

One thing that stops me from doing some things is that i am not a loner... neither am i a crowd person. i simply cant make myself go somewhere alone, which is a bad thing i know. what i mean tho, i dont like to go outside on my own or go to movies on my own etc.