Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War

[Alneyan]

*Disengages lurking cloak* It is the award that has been given at Cannes, and it is supposed to reward the best film (or rather, documentary here) shown at the competition. *Goes back to lurk mode*

[Slynky]

While I recognize an author can sell books on hype and mistruths, I also feel that we later come to learn not everything was a mistruth after a certain amount of time has passed and people are willing to take a fresh look. The Kennedy assassination falls into this Category.

Having worked in top-secret environments, I can also tell you that things are classified for release to the public...the number of years it is classified being determined by a calculated "estimate" of just when its release will only cause a yawn from the public. Think about it.

[rextorres]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Basically any movie that attacks the culture of America with suffient enough lies and mistruths can win a palme d'or.

This is regretable, but true.

I am not sure if you saw the movie, but, Moore attacks Bush not our culture in this movie. Implying that Moore's movie attacks our culture is a mistruth.

Also if you look at the list of palm d'or winners most of them have nothing to do with American culture.

Still - this probably was a "political" award. It says more about how strong world opinion is against the current administration than U.S. culture.

[ May 22, 2004, 21:02: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[Atrocities]

Moore is a jerk and only the French would give him an award for an anti-Bush movie.

If Moore was this great documentary film maker, then why doen't he do a movie on things other than what he has done them on? Simple, he is a jerk out to cause as much controversy as his warped mind can produce.

The guy is a jerk, and obviously Disney thought so to.

[freduk]

Haha your issue with Moore is that you dont believe him
You think he's telling lies, while my problem with him is that he just tells stuff everybody who followed the news could have concluded for himself, thus making his movie be quite redundant.

Reading your Posts, maybe this works different for Americans. You really think your government has good intentions with other, oil producing countries. Cute.

At least we both dislike Mr Moore. Did you see the ceremony where the trophee was given unto him? How the Tri-chin said "merci" to the public as if to appear humble and that he had taken time to know SOMETHING of their language? What a moron.

PS: I din't see the entire movie but only pieces of it, so maybe I am missing some parts which he obviously made up, but for what I've seen it's correct. Please make ONE example of what he obviously made up in your point of view.

[rextorres]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Moore is a jerk and only the French would give him an award for an anti-Bush movie.

Actually that's another mistruth.

The jury committee (the ones who choose the winner) is made up of 3 Americans, 1 Brit, 1 Chinese, 1 Finn, 1 Haitian and only 1 French person. 1 French Jury Member does not constitute as the "French" giving Moore an award. You can look it up if you don't believe me.

I suppose it's a credit - and a lack of bigotry -on the French to choose mostly foreigners. I can't imagine an American organization allowing mostly foreigners to pick an award for anything much less the most prestigious film award.

[ May 23, 2004, 21:51: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[primitive]

Originally posted by rextorres:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Basically any movie that attacks the culture of America with suffient enough lies and mistruths can win a palme d'or.

This is regretable, but true.

I am not sure if you saw the movie, but, Moore attacks Bush not our culture in this movie. Implying that Moore's movie attacks our culture is a mistruth.
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Huh, Rex.

Do you mean to imply that lying, stealing, corruption, torture and random killing of people with different skintone or creed is not American culture. Now I'm getting confused.

Edit: Typing

[ May 23, 2004, 21:56: Message edited by: primitive ]

[Grauzone]

Originally posted by primitive:

Do you mean to imply that lying, stealing, corruption, torture and random killing of people with different skintone or creed is not American culture. Now I'm getting confused.

if you talking in this way, you can append norway very fast to the axis of evil. be carefully with your words

[spoon]

There was a good article on slashdot today about Moore: Slashdot

Here are three links from the slashdot discussion:

bowling for columbine criticism

Moore's response to criticisms

Direct response to Bowling criticism

[Gandalf Parker]

Definetly be careful with words. This thread could be in in danger.