Need advice - MA Nation, Strategy and Pretender - Page 5

Edratman · #41 January 3rd, 2008, 08:36 AM

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vfb said:
Almost. For me, beer == Sloth. I only wish it could provide production!

I wish it could provide health, wealth and happiness. I would settle for one of those TC minus 10 year spells. If beer would remove 10 years per night of consumption (I'm thinking it would be like gems, it takes several to cast the spell) I would currently be -35,678 years old, give or take a week.

Zeldor · #42 January 3rd, 2008, 11:58 AM

FedSlayer:

If you take oracle it is because he has 0 points to buy and starts with 4 dominion. And you invest in scales. And TC can make a good use of scales. Other idea is to take worse scales and good pretender to fight and conquer provinces, I do not remember if TC can take Prince of Death.

Sombre · #43 January 3rd, 2008, 12:26 PM

Almost everyone (if not everyone) can take PoD because he's a default pretender, much like the cyclops.

He's also the best pretender in the game, arguably. Something like smoking mirror might give him a run for his money though, I forget.

Zeldor · #44 January 3rd, 2008, 12:35 PM

Sombre:

No, he is not default. At least some nations cannot take him. For example LA Marignon has Moloch, not PoD.

Shovah32 · #45 January 3rd, 2008, 02:44 PM

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I wish it could provide health, wealth and happiness. I would settle for one of those TC minus 10 year spells. If beer would remove 10 years per night of consumption (I'm thinking it would be like gems, it takes several to cast the spell) I would currently be -35,678 years old, give or take a week.

Impossible. My testing of this - both in and out of game

- has proven that one cannot go below age 0.

KissBlade · #46 January 3rd, 2008, 05:06 PM

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Edratman said:

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vfb said:
Almost. For me, beer == Sloth. I only wish it could provide production!

I wish it could provide health, wealth and happiness. I would settle for one of those TC minus 10 year spells. If beer would remove 10 years per night of consumption (I'm thinking it would be like gems, it takes several to cast the spell) I would currently be -35,678 years old, give or take a week.

If internal alchemy was really beer, it'll explain why it AGES 10 extra years per cast.

FedSlayer · #47 January 3rd, 2008, 08:09 PM

PoD is not available to MA TC and neither is Moloch.

FedSlayer · #48 January 3rd, 2008, 08:59 PM

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Sombre said:
Order 3, Prod 3, Heat 3, Death 2, Turmoil 2, Magic 1?

vfb corrected that Prod to Sloth, but you can't have Order 3 AND Trumoil 2, so I'm guessing the 2 grenades are misfortune making that Order 3, Sloth 3, Heat 3, Death 2, Misfortune 2 and Magic 1

Not good tiles, but he has to pay for Dominion and pretender's magic levels somewhere.

vfb · #49 January 3rd, 2008, 09:08 PM

Oops yeah, grenades are Misfortune, not Turmoil. Probably what Sombre meant anyway.

Order 3 - Misfortune 2 is no problem really, especially when Death is only at 2.

Magic 1 is just as good as Magic 2, except actually it's better because it's cheaper

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And bad scales with high dominion are actually good. If I push my dominion into an enemy province, they don't get the good scales (Order). So those provinces end up with Order-0, Sloth-3, Heat-3, Misfortune-2, Death-2, which can give some unpleasant random events.

Zeldor · #50 January 3rd, 2008, 09:13 PM

I wouldn't be so sure about misfortune. You can survive and then live well or you can have bad luck and you can lose the game withing 10 turns because of misfortune. And taking misfortune and death is almost suicide. You get extremely nasty events together [though some need death3]. Heat 3 is also not so nice, it does not have only that visible effects

And connected with Death 2 would make really tiny supply limit.

Anyway, what do you need that points for? That would make 740 points for pretender and dominion strength... he won't take ultra bless with TC.