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		| Twan said: For me the ideal system (for dom 4) would be an individual initiative based on ap, or better on a new initiative stat for commander/mages, a little drn for some randomness, a *little* bonus for the defenders (and attackers with adequate survival skill) based on province terrain (so they finally start to matter), and a malus for mages based on the level/requirements of the spell they intend to cast.
 
 
 
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 I like your train of thought Twan.  One based purely on  AP +rnd would be very nice. Certainly there would be debate on whether it would be base AP, base AP+ any "natural" quickness or as above + spell casted quickness + magic items... 
-SSJ