Mod: Conceptual Balance Mod 1.6

[pyg]

Minor request: Could the Hero Blade be renumbered higher, say like 850 or so. This would make combineMods.py work better with it without having to figure out a crazy multi-line regex for one item in one mod.

[Edi]

Did anyone ever actually bother to do a chopped up version of CBM 1.6 to Pretenders, Spells, Nations, Heroes etc?

If they didn't, I've got a chopped up version though all components use the CBM Complete banner and some have been mashed together (like Pretenders & Scales). Also placed the CBM Indies in a separate mod so that it's easier to use Better Independents with the other parts.

If anyone is interested in making the banners for the separate pieces, it'd be trivial to post them.


Also, one note of complaint:

Any weapons and armor definitions should be at the very beginning of the mod before any monster or spell modifications. This helps avoid mod bugs. Especially in a project like CBM where not everyone wants to use everything, it would be easiest if that section was first, because then copying and pasting it to all the necessary chopped up sections (Pretenders, Nations, Spells, Independents) would be much easier.

As it is, chopping things up was a real hassle yesterday.

[Calahan]

A call for opinions.....

Assuming this is possible for CBM to do, what do people think about the idea of swapping LA Man's starting gem income of 2 Nature gems for something they can actually use instead.

Since having now checked to be sure, it appears LA Man are the only nation in the game who have a starting gem income that does not match any of the paths on their national mages. This seems mighty odd to me, as they'd surely be better off starting with Fire, Astral or Earth income instead of the Nature they currently have (to go with the 2 Air they also get).

Plus this change would bring them back in line with the matching "starting gem income-national mage" relationship that is standard for every other nation.

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Calahan

A call for opinions.....

Assuming this is possible for CBM to do, what do people think about the idea of swapping LA Man's starting gem income of 2 Nature gems for something they can actually use instead.

Since having now checked to be sure, it appears LA Man are the only nation in the game who have a starting gem income that does not match any of the paths on their national mages. This seems mighty odd to me, as they'd surely be better off starting with Fire, Astral or Earth income instead of the Nature they currently have (to go with the 2 Air they also get).

Plus this change would bring them back in line with the matching "starting gem income-national mage" relationship that is standard for every other nation.

They might be considered an exception that proves the rule, like pythium getting 8 gems in MA.

But then I think pythium should be taken down to 5 gems as well.

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by Calahan

A call for opinions.....

Assuming this is possible for CBM to do, what do people think about the idea of swapping LA Man's starting gem income of 2 Nature gems for something they can actually use instead.

Since having now checked to be sure, it appears LA Man are the only nation in the game who have a starting gem income that does not match any of the paths on their national mages. This seems mighty odd to me, as they'd surely be better off starting with Fire, Astral or Earth income instead of the Nature they currently have (to go with the 2 Air they also get).

Plus this change would bring them back in line with the matching "starting gem income-national mage" relationship that is standard for every other nation.

For balance, sure, makes sense.

For thematic reasons, though, there should definitely be nature income because after all, it's basically sites taken over from the now departed Tuatha. The fact that the impudent usurping humans don't comprehend how to best use and control the ancient faerie magics is perfectly appropriate.

I oppose this on thematic grounds.

[Squirrelloid]

Originally Posted by Stavis_L

For balance, sure, makes sense.

For thematic reasons, though, there should definitely be nature income because after all, it's basically sites taken over from the now departed Tuatha. The fact that the impudent usurping humans don't comprehend how to best use and control the ancient faerie magics is perfectly appropriate.

I oppose this on thematic grounds.

Theme is totally fungible. For instance, you could just say Man's engineers found a way to convert its energy into more useable products (which is why it produces fewer gems than it used to). Man may have inherited the land from the Tuatha, but they are a nation of engineers who construct great machines (siege bonus engineers!) and likely make other great structures - surely this has consequences. And as their engineers are also mages, who's to say their engineering only affects the mundane world - someplace as important as their capital site they have had much time and likely expended much effort transforming it to suit their needs.

[Festin]

Will the next version of CBM actually ever be released? To me, it looks like this excellent mod was forsaken by its creator. Any news from him?

[Digress]

Have blood sites been removed somehow or am I just really unlucky ?

I haven't found a single blood site in two games playing with the current version of CBM.

[Globu]

Not in my experience. I've been getting them with CBM in a number of SP games.

[Digress]

Just my luck then ... damn.